(2018-03-16, 17:36)afedchin Wrote:(2018-03-16, 17:05)Warner306 Wrote: madshi is using the private AMD/Nvidia APIs to turn HDR onthis is an unacceptable solution. We are trying to keep Kodi codebase independent of hw and private APIs.
(2018-03-16, 19:09)Warner306 Wrote: Then you may have to wait a long time for a universal Windows solution. As I don’t think one exists.OK then. Why we should support private vendor APIs only because vendors don't want to properly implement common API - DirectX?
(2018-03-17, 10:56)afedchin Wrote:It's not the vendors that are the issue, it's Microsoft. The windows 10 creators update implemented HDR, and it's my understanding that they began requiring implementing their HDR API support from vendors in the WDM 2.2 driver standard. However, their implementation was/is terrible (google windows 10 nvidia hdr) and is actually why many started using old nvidia drivers from before WDM 2.2 -- to fix their HDR support. Likewise, this is why solutions like MadVR implemented the nvidia private APIs which ONLY work with those older driver versions, because to many it's the only way HDR works at all. The reason I know this is because it broke for me too after I updated windows and tried toggling the fancy windows-supplied HDR on my HDR-compliant hardware, twas broken sir! Googling ran me down the same rabbit hole as many others. I don't remember a lot of the details, but it had to do with a poor implementation/support of color spaces on windows part and weirdness they did with conversion making it only work in very-specific setups.(2018-03-16, 19:09)Warner306 Wrote: Then you may have to wait a long time for a universal Windows solution. As I don’t think one exists.OK then. Why we should support private vendor APIs only because vendors don't want to properly implement common API - DirectX?
(2018-03-17, 23:31)afedchin Wrote: We already have a lot of pain with different video acceleration APIs on linux I don't want the same on windows.Same old story. Too few win developers and many that work on linux. There's little we users can do.
(2018-03-18, 08:10)moravec Wrote: If I understand correctly, I should switch from windows to linux to run Kodi? On linux the bugs/problems are fixed and on windows maybe not?!No one said that. Do you know how to run Linux? That would be a prerequisite. Most users are more comfortable with Windows.
(2018-03-18, 17:50)Warner306 Wrote:Most Windows users are comfortable with Windows, but knowing "how to run Linux" is not a pre-requisite when things like LibreElec exist.(2018-03-18, 08:10)moravec Wrote: If I understand correctly, I should switch from windows to linux to run Kodi? On linux the bugs/problems are fixed and on windows maybe not?!No one said that. Do you know how to run Linux? That would be a prerequisite. Most users are more comfortable with Windows.
(2018-03-17, 23:46)ashlar Wrote:I picked up an Nvidia Shield to run an Android build of Leia and a MINIX U9-H to run LibreElec. I realize not everyone is in the same position, but it might be time to shift away from Windows as cheaper hardware alternatives are providing HDR10 capable Hardware with Auto frame rate switching & dynamic range matching:(2018-03-17, 23:31)afedchin Wrote: We already have a lot of pain with different video acceleration APIs on linux I don't want the same on windows.Same old story. Too few win developers and many that work on linux. There's little we users can do.
(2018-03-18, 18:10)drpizznock Wrote:(2018-03-17, 23:46)ashlar Wrote:I picked up an Nvidia Shield to run an Android build of Leia and a MINIX U9-H to run LibreElec. I realize not everyone is in the same position, but it might be time to shift away from Windows as cheaper hardware alternatives are providing HDR10 capable Hardware with Auto frame rate switching & dynamic range matching:(2018-03-17, 23:31)afedchin Wrote: We already have a lot of pain with different video acceleration APIs on linux I don't want the same on windows.Same old story. Too few win developers and many that work on linux. There's little we users can do.
https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=325077
(2018-03-19, 00:51)Warner306 Wrote: Great link. Thanks.Agreed, but getting DSPlayer stabilized with the right config and having Nvidia screw up their drivers between releases was not fun though.
Kodi DSPlayer does all of this with no limitations, but it’s not Kodi. It is by far the best at color space conversions due to madVR.
(2018-03-19, 05:07)drpizznock Wrote:The new drivers are sorted out. And there are always external players for 4K UHD content alone.(2018-03-19, 00:51)Warner306 Wrote: Great link. Thanks.Agreed, but getting DSPlayer stabilized with the right config and having Nvidia screw up their drivers between releases was not fun though.
Kodi DSPlayer does all of this with no limitations, but it’s not Kodi. It is by far the best at color space conversions due to madVR.
