Proper naming of video files/folders for the library
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Hello everyone, first time poster and brand new to Kodi. I bought a OSMC Vero 4k+ that uses Kodi 18.3.

I want to properly set up all my external drives with the proper naming the first time so I don't have to go back and redo them. I have 4 external drives with about 17tb of moviies.

I’ve read thru several posts and the Kodi wiki on the proper naming of video/files movies.

First question is the proper name to name the parent folder. The Kodi wiki says to name it “Movies 1”, but I’ve read in some posts that it’s been named “All video content”. Does it matter what the name is in order for the scraper to name properly?
Does the library scrape artwork for Movie collections and does it allow for "chronological order?

Example: Movies 1>Blu-Ray>Avengers Collection>Iron man (2008)>Iron man (2008).mkv
-----------------------------4k movies>Matrix collection>Matrix (1999)>Matrix (1999).mkv
-----------------------------Disney movies>The Lion King (1994)>The Lion King (1994).mkv

Will the library generate artwork for the folders “Avengers collection” and “Matrix collection”

Examples:

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I would like to keep the “Avengers collection” in chronological order. How should I name or set up folders to do this?

Does the parent “Movie 1” folder and the sub folders “Blu-Ray”, “4k movies” and “Disney movies” need artwork? Do these folders even show up?

I have artwork for Parent and sub folders like these:

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Also any recommendations for a good skin that will allow for animated and all around complete customization for artwork.

What scrapers are recommended for the best artwork?

Last question: Is the artwork and metadata collected and stored in the movies folders on the external hard drives or is it kept and stored on the Kodi system?

Thanks in advance for any and all help!
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(2019-09-11, 23:30)ROGUE7474 Wrote: First question is the proper name to name the parent folder. The Kodi wiki says to name it “Movies 1”, but I’ve read in some posts that it’s been named “All video content”.
By parent folder I assume you mean Source folder. Read here as I think you missed this in the wiki... https://kodi.wiki/view/Naming_video_files#Source_Folder


(2019-09-11, 23:30)ROGUE7474 Wrote: Does the library scrape artwork for Movie collections and does it allow for "chronological order?
It scrapes online artwork. Local scanning of movie collection of artwork is due for inclusion of v19. See wiki... Movie_sets_artwork (wiki)


(2019-09-11, 23:30)ROGUE7474 Wrote: I would like to keep the “Avengers collection” in chronological order. How should I name or set up folders to do this?
Use the Sort Title... Movie_sets (wiki)
Also of interest are options to create Movie Universes... HOW-TO:Movie_universe (wiki)


(2019-09-11, 23:30)ROGUE7474 Wrote: Does the parent “Movie 1” folder and the sub folders “Blu-Ray”, “4k movies” and “Disney movies” need artwork? Do these folders even show up?
No and only in Files>Videos are they visible. You can set an image for the Source folder... https://kodi.wiki/view/Artwork_types#Source_Folder_Icon


(2019-09-11, 23:30)ROGUE7474 Wrote: What scrapers are recommended for the best artwork?
Use the Universal Movie Scraper as it will scrape extended artwork. If you have local artwork, then any scraper will do the same job.


(2019-09-11, 23:30)ROGUE7474 Wrote: Last question: Is the artwork and metadata collected and stored in the movies folders on the external hard drives or is it kept and stored on the Kodi system?
The scrapers only store in Kodi cache and database. Kodi does not write to the filesystem containing the media. If you want local artwork, then read section 1 here... Artwork (wiki)
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(2019-09-12, 00:52)Karellen Wrote: By parent folder I assume you mean Source folder.

First, thank you for all the info and pointing me to the wikis. Yes, by Parent folder I meant Source folder.
(2019-09-12, 00:52)Karellen Wrote: Use the Sort Title... Movie_sets(wiki)
Also of interest are options to create Movie Universes... HOW-TO:Movie_universe(wiki)

These were the wikis that answered my questions about Movie sets and Chronological order.
(2019-09-12, 00:52)Karellen Wrote: The scrapers only store in Kodi cache and database. Kodi does not write to the filesystem containing the media.

Kodi stores cache and database and does not write anything to filesystem (External Hard drives), so by this you mean all data such as Posters, Fanart, NFO and everything scraped is stored in Kodi?

Can I have all the data stored locally in the folders locally?

And last, being this is my first go around with Kodi and setting up a library, just how forgiving is this library as far as being able to undo or redo mistakes?
Is it something that you can go into and fix just a couple of folders and artwork individually or do you have to completely start over and redo everything?
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(2019-09-13, 04:02)ROGUE7474 Wrote: Kodi stores cache and database and does not write anything to filesystem (External Hard drives), so by this you mean all data such as Posters, Fanart, NFO and everything scraped is stored in Kodi?
Yes. It is all stored in the Userdata (wiki) folder.
As a matter of normal usage, Kodi does not write to the filesystem, but if you perform an Export Import-Export library (wiki), then yes it will save items to the filesystem which includes Artwork and NFO Files. This comes from the cache for Artwork and the database for NFO Files.


(2019-09-13, 04:02)ROGUE7474 Wrote: Can I have all the data stored locally in the folders locally?
You can certainly use local information. How to do that is explained in the pages I previously linked. But Kodi will still cache artwork and will still read nfo files into the database. If you are hoping that Kodi will only operate out of local file systems, then no that is not possible.


(2019-09-13, 04:02)ROGUE7474 Wrote: And last, being this is my first go around with Kodi and setting up a library, just how forgiving is this library as far as being able to undo or redo mistakes?
Is it something that you can go into and fix just a couple of folders and artwork individually or do you have to completely start over and redo everything?
It is pretty forgiving. Once you set up a Source, you don't really need to fiddle with the Source anymore. Only the movies or TV Shows within the Source need to be dealt with. If you make a mistake with a Movie, then simply delete the movie from the library. (highlight the movie and press Delete on a keyboard or use the Context Menu)

If you end up scraping the wrong movie, then call up the Information Page and select Refresh.

Lots of options in the Context Menus and Information Pages. In case you don't know how to access them... Basic_controls (wiki)
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(2019-09-13, 04:12)Karellen Wrote: Kodi will still cache artwork and will still read nfo files into the database. If you are hoping that Kodi will only operate out of local file systems, then no that is not possible.

OK understood. For whatever reason I wanted to use my own artwork i.e. custom poster, fanart or artwork that the scraper just can't find, By placing this local artwork in the movie folder does it override the scarpers potential artwork?
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(2019-09-13, 04:43)ROGUE7474 Wrote: By placing this local artwork in the movie folder does it override the scarpers potential artwork?
Local is primary. Scrapers are the fallback. Yes, local will always over-ride the scraper.
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(2019-09-13, 05:02)Karellen Wrote: Yes, local will always over-ride the scraper.

Thanks for the help and info. I got a lot of reading to do and I'm sure I'll be back with more questions.
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