2010-12-06, 08:55
New software will always have a learning curve. With SO many features and options, it definitely can be bewildering... HOWEVER....it is very efficient and with a little investigating, you can understand how it functions.
dushmaniac Wrote:- the ability to program a remote from within xbmc, without touching any lirc config files
AnalogKid Wrote:... is its own success....
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SpectreX Wrote:Also, when you are browsing the library, the up one level button should be eliminated, we have remotes for navigating with back buttons.
grotgrot Wrote:It looks like I am SOL with TV. My content is in folders like "House/Season 1/Disc 1.iso" and from the doc it looks like I need
to tease the episodes out into single files or somehow pretend that each disc is an episode.
grotgrot Wrote:I figure someone somewhere may be interested to know what it is like coming in as a new user. Using Dharma/10.0 on Ubuntu 10.10.
TLDR: Many parts are great and playing works well. The user interface seems designed by someone who hates me and wants to make things as frustrating as possible when using a remote control. I also tried the official XBMC Android client. It is great, although it likes to have confusing battles with the screen lock.
My main use case is that I have a collection of over 700 DVD boxes, each with one or more discs inside. About 20% are TV shows with the rest movies and documentaries. Up until earlier this year I used a 5 disc DVD player, but it is slow, clunky and still requires shuffling discs around. Since hard drive prices have come down so much I figured I'd start using them.
I have transcoded content in the past so that I would have stuff while travelling on my laptop but it takes a long time and is fiddly (selecting the right title, soundtracks, subtitles, encoding parameters etc). I decided to just rip things as the original ISO (Copy disk context menu in Ubuntu does the trick) and save to hard drive. This keeps all the menus, soundtracks, additional commentary, all the episodes for TV shows at the expense of some increasingly cheap disk space.
I started with a WD TV Live box, but finally gave up as it has many issues like forgetting the resolution of the TV it has been connected to on almost every power on, not remembering what I was playing, and almost always requiring a power cycle when changing from one ISO image to another.
A week ago I figured I'd give XBMC a go on a home made HTPC running Ubuntu with a MCE remote bought at Fry's. The goal was to also run Hulu Desktop. When getting it to play a DVD ISO image, things work well. Same for a folder of all my music.
But other than that the user interface is extremely frustrating. Making the weather show C instead of F was ludicrous. Having three places is great but switching between them should merely require pressing right the relevant number of times.
It took me a week to figure out how to do "now playing" - just press tab on the keyboard. (Right or left clicking with the mouse on random parts of the screen did it some of the time also.) Of course I actually want to do this on the remote but seem out of luck. It would be really nice if the bottommost home screen item was "now playing".
There is no place that shows what has been recently played, or is in the process of being played. For example if I was watching a film and a TV show, stopped both half way through, and came back two days later it would be nice to see those two items at the top of a list so I could continue. The WD TV Live was like this too so I had to start writing down on a white board which show, season, disc and episode I am currently on.
The video interfaces are a pain. I can never predict what a key will do. Some things appear to be only possible with a mouse. Pressing left may go back or it may provide yet another menu that switches modes on the right. There seems to be numerous modes and views and I can never quite figure out which one I should be in, how to switch back, and how to get out of it all. As evidence, try to work out how many possible different screens there could be from selecting Videos on the home screen. Sometimes it dives straight into content, other times playlists are listed, other times I get to see actors/genres etc and other times I have no idea what I am looking at.
It looks like I am SOL with TV. My content is in folders like "House/Season 1/Disc 1.iso" and from the doc it looks like I need
to tease the episodes out into single files or somehow pretend that each disc is an episode.
Playing ISOs has some maddening inconsistencies. For example you can press the back button on the remote control to get out the disc itself on the journey towards the home screen, but only if something is playing. If you are in the menus then it doesn't work. When pressing every button on my remote control (about the only way to learn the interface) I found the channel up button would skip in the pre-menu previews, but not while playing the main title.
After a week and seeing frequent references to smart playlists in the doc, but never any mention of how to actually find them, I finally stumbled on them. I could create a recent one with last played items trying to solve my earlier problems and it appears to work. For some bizarre reason you can't use the last played date as a criteria in the gui for TV shows and that is where it is most important.
The Executor add-on happily launches Hulu Desktop and that all works well except it doesn't have an option to stop any currently playing items, and then resume them after the executed program exits.
What would make things better?
A user guide that had an explanation of how to use things! I don't mean how to install etc which is all very well covered, but rather some sort of meaningful explanations of where everything is and why it is scattered all over the place. Some idea of how to do things with a remote control. For example it is trivial to right click on a higher level folder with a mouse and request its contents be played, but the remote doesn't have a right click!
Even better would be simplifying the interface so that it becomes strictly hierarchical. Pressing up and down should always scroll through items in a list, going right should select the current item and provide more detail/actions, while going left should go back one level. ie it would be possible to do everything with just the arrow directions and ok/enter/select. (I'm not saying other keys/clicks should not be possible, but rather that they are an optimisation over this baseline.)
spartan711 Wrote:Maybe some batch transcodes would do the job?
isamu.dragon Wrote:To Help with this you need to name your Disc 1.iso to something like this ... Use Ember Media Manager ...