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But this actually say that "Maybe I'm passing judgment too quickly, but maybe Zidoo should focus on their AML S905 product instead" that is not fair for the existing customers with a product that is new and have problems.
If they also should abandon the Q5 after 6months then all the Q5 customers also had a product that where full of problems, they still have problems with the Q5 but now mainly for the customers that need stable subtitles (very few countries talk english natively).
It´s hard to prove wrong if they stop the focus just to move focus to promote an other product and no it´s not about the grades on the X6 or H8 and most people buying them have not even seen the review but future reviews can bee seen different if reviewers say stop focus, come with the new products.
If they also have problems with the AML S905 should they also dump the customers after 6 months ?
In that way compagnies are told that it´s okay to promote and sell useless products just to get money fast and then ignore fixing problems and customers.
You see it´s a bad circle to get in to, one that only give bad karma for everybody, just as bad as the compagnies that are GPL violators which is wrong to.
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I agree. I'm not saying dump anyone. At the same time, you should be aware of Rockchip's history, and that there are going to some issues on media players that never get resolved. Unfortunately, it's just the way it is. Having said that, HiMedia Q5 is about as good as one can expect for a 3D Kodi player w/proper 23.976 and HD audio. Same goes for RPi2. Can't say that for any other 3D Android players... yet.
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2015-12-31, 03:30
(This post was last modified: 2015-12-31, 04:06 by Kilroy.)
It´s importent you understand that it´s not about my crappy H8, it´s about the ordinary family arround the world that need a mediaplayer and have small knowledge about what the different chip brands and there history, they have to be able to trust the compagnies and that there products can do at least the minimum that is needed.
There are also many customers that are less lucky talking money as other and then 100$ are a lot of money but they are just as importent customers as any other and they also need to be able to trust compagnies.
It´s all about moral and trust, thats why reviewers have to be on the customers page and not the compagnies page, if not only as they can be sure that the review is a review and not a paid ad, when you go out and ask what users would like to have in the upcomming Himedia box and do it for Himedia you are very close to the border where it might be best to say no I´m a product reviewer and not a Himedia sales employee, Himedia should be here them self asking that.
For me I where on a new market, my last box where a WD Tv live Gen3 and knew nothing about android boxes, I made one big error trusting Simon from Futeko and got a crappy box, I´m one of the lucky people that don´t have to work more the 1 1/2 hour to pay the box (some have to work a week or two) thats why I say as I say and belive that reviwers should do the same so everybody can be in the circle with trust.
About 3D players I think that there are no good solution right now, sure the Q5 have a good picture and play most Iso and Mvc and Rpi2 the same but again they have there problems also 2D subs on 3D movie very anoying when you have subs on from start to end, if the Wetec Core can play 3Dmvc with the patch then it will be a fine temporary box for me, I dont like the idea with the wrapper that is used on the Q5, if Himedia stop firmware upgrades with the new Kodi upgrades then all Q5 customers are in a bad position.
In a perfect world there should be a 3D player where all licences that are needed are paid som we can get fully working boxes, it may cost but I would love to pay the extra money and know that many other would do the same but I don´t know any boxes that realy do work as a simple and fully working box without wrappers, triks and so on.
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2015-12-31, 03:56
(This post was last modified: 2015-12-31, 04:06 by hdmkv.)
The "the ordinary family around the world" isn't going to buy these boxes, or shouldn't be. Maybe a Fire TV, Roku or whatever. If people succumb to marketing hype, then they do. Re: reviewers, I can only say I've been very upfront in my reviews as I'm a Kodi and home theater enthusiast myself. I don't write superficial, glowing reviews about boxes just cuz manufacturers sent them to me. I leave that job to the likes of mulderfox, who was basically spamming here w/superficial reviews. I try my best to tell it like it is. I make mistakes, and smart people here, especially devs or other seasoned enthusiasts correct me, and I learn and apply that knowledge going forward, which is pretty awesome.
Re: Q5 issues you noted, yes there are still some issues with it... and every other damn box on the market. You just need to pick the best box(es) that suit your needs, and with issues you can live with. We all want that elusive, do-it-all perfect box... but, it does not yet exist. Not for 3D anyway... for 2D, yes: grab a nVidia Shield (if you need 4K) or a Chromebox (if you don't). Or, a WeTek Core, which is the best in-between box. Even then, there are colorspace issues w/Shield and Chromebox doesn't do Netflix and other premium streaming content.
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(This post was last modified: 2015-12-31, 04:01 by wrxtasy.)
hdmkv, keep cutting thru the hype and bullshit and continue telling it like it is with these media players.
Kilroy, you will notice I have started pushing very hard lately on GPL2 Kodi source code (and Kernel) compliance from sellers and will have one major company under the targeting scope regarding this matter in 2016.
This GPL2 source code sharing demonstrates the trust you should place in companies products. Openness, peer review and collaborative coding produces a far better end product than shutting up shop and not sharing anything. The Kodi and RPi projects themselves are a shining beacons of what can be produced with a collaborative community effort.
You will also notice I have gone in very hard on Cheap Asian Android manufacturers pumping out Alpha Firmware devices with bullshit marketing promises and fooling Joe Public into parting with their hard earned cash. It seems you are one of their Victims unfortunately along with a whole bunch of others. Just stop buying this sort of shit would be my suggestion to people.
This marketing hype and outright lying, seems to be a very common business practice for media players coming out of Asia and is why in my Sticky "Pick the Right Kodi Box" thread I'm dead against potential purchasers choosing most sellers from Asia at all. Nearly all of them use deceptive marketing, stolen code and give nothing back to the Kodi project itself. I Trust none of them.
Warning to all potential purchasers - stay away from Rockhip devices period for Kodi use !
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Wow thanks for making such a well done post. I was literally moments from buying a H8 when i read this. Thanks for saving me some money!!!
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Both these boxes may turn out to be decent options w/further firmware development, but based on progress to date & Rockchip lacking, it's kinda hard to imagine.
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Hello , has anyone tested the new firmware 1.0.9 for the himedia h8?
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Thanks for the heads up; traveling, so can't test until Friday.
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