Family Watch mode - community driven automatic scene skip
#1
Rainbow 
Where would be a good place to present this idea to the developers and the community?
Nod

Feature/AI :

Eventual automatic sensing (with ability to send/accept dynamic feedback adjustments through a communication loop) of parents moral sense for specific scenes in movies, with the in-software (or service) ability to automatically, seamlessly, skip non-essential scenes based on parents moral sense, and to give parents an easy, straightforward mechanism to instantly send feedback to the community-driven algorithm to adjust it's pattern recognition, and the ability of the service to identify, through fuzzy logic (deep learning), categorizations of parenting styles based on age, culture, religion, or unique parenting styles. (similarly to how music services, and youtube analytics identify tastes, trends, tase overlaps, and distastes, and etc, with designs on identifying, and helping to bring the desired experience, avoid undesired experience, and also allow for the discovery of new, un-predicted, enjoyable experience, while minimizing accidental exposure to material which would cause a mis-trust/dis-taste.)
Nod

okay so I had this idea for media servers... the idea originally came from an idea I had for smart DVD players though. The idea is this... after the media server catalogues your movies, there would be a special button on the screen for parents to skip certain parts of movies that they don't want their children to watch. This information could be aggregated back to the media server companies and it could go into data base just like the subtitles data bases, and the artwork data base, and the ratings data bases. They could keep track of, on average, which sections of movies are getting skip ed, for how long, and for what ages of children, and for what reasons. There could even be a training mode where the parent can choose from a couple of reasons why they skipped the section. They could initially set up the software so that it knows the age or ages of the children watching. There could be a mode called family watch. And before you start the movie playing you tell the media server that you're going to do a family watch. So the family watch mode would start the video playing. In the training mode you would initially be using this for questionable movies where the parent has the ability to skip seeing and tell the media server where it can resume playing again and for what reason you skipped it. This information could be statistically analysed at the media server level locally, and it could also be aggregated back to the data bases of the people who make the media server software, and the movie companies, and sections of movies could be rated by parents all over the world. The other mode could just be family watch ( without necessarily having to train while you watch) where you trust the level of settings for that movie from what other parents have marked out. There could actually be a slider that could be adjusted from extremely conservative towards a very liberal. Parents with different feelings about different scenes in different movies would be able to slide the lever to wherever they feel is comfortable. Questionable sections of movies would automatically be skipped. because different parents feel differently about what children should or shouldn't see, it could treated just like it treats music, it could see that if you skipped a particular kind of scene, in a particular kind of movie, it could be analyzed against what other parents have skipped, and it could match you up with various parenting styles. Ok ready set go. Start developing.Nod

sorry about the redundancy
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#2
So basically an EDL (wiki) downloader like how we have subtitle downloaders, using community sites?
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#3
(2014-12-30, 21:01)Ned Scott Wrote: So basically an EDL (wiki) downloader like how we have subtitle downloaders, using community sites?

It would seem to be a whole lot more than that; although EDL looks like an excellent mechanism to implement the actual marking and skipping of the offending section of the media. The hard part, to my mind, is the whole crowd-sourced creation and management of these EDL files for particular communities who share the same moral sensitivities.
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#4
I was thinking along the lines of a crowd sourced EDL file that removes Boring parts, so that you can watch the movie or TV show in half the time. A football game, for example, could be reduced to probably 45 minutes, if you make cut points as soon as the play is over. And of course you cut the commercials. A hockey game might be reduced to 2 minutes! Shows like The Bachelor could be cut in a third, by removing the "coming up next" scenes and the "what you just saw" scenes. Time is Money, so this could be valuable!
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#5
Slightly related, there are some amazing fan edits of movies and tv shows out there. I've seen an otherwise horrible movie saved by some clever editing.

Also, what's with the nightly news advertising what news stories they will say before the commercial break? Most of the news show is advertisements for what will happen 5 minutes from then. The actual news is maybe a total of 7 minutes for a half hour show (21-ish minutes not counting commercials).
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(2014-12-31, 21:32)dukeja Wrote:
(2014-12-30, 21:01)Ned Scott Wrote: So basically an EDL (wiki) downloader like how we have subtitle downloaders, using community sites?
. The hard part, to my mind, is the whole crowd-sourced creation and management of these EDL files for particular communities who share the same moral sensitivities.

Responding with a phone so please forgive spelling punctuation and other grammatical nightmarResponding with a phone so please forgive spelling punctuation and other grammatical nightmares.

So this could be made sort of easier by allowing the parent / editor to select a category after they have chosen to skip a section, to select a category after they have chosen to skip a section. It could work like tags. So a parent or other morally sensitive person see something in a movie they would prefer not to see, they press the skip button and kodi asks them what category of skip it i skip it is. For example it could be nudity brief nudity simulated copulation violence profanity, philosophical concept, or any of a list of the most common moral objections. These lists probably already exist these lists probably already exists. Also there can be an othe Also there can be an other category which could either stay generic or could allow the user to add a tag word. On the server and analytics such as statistics couldn't be used on a paper tag basi such as statistics couldn't be used on a paper tag bases in an attempt to fine tune the start and end points of the various types of skip such as statistics couldn't be used on a paper tag basis in an attempt to fine-tune the start and end points of the various types of skips. A parent or morally sensitive person if choosing to view movies with this mode turned on, could go into the extensio could go into the extension, if it were extension base could go into the extension, if it were extension based, and select the tags that they would like to auto ski could go into the extension, if it were extension based, and select the tags that they would like to auto skip. There should be a function built i There should be a function built-in to allow someone to fin There should be a function built in to allow someone to fine-tune down to the frame and auto skip segment. On the server level all of the submissions for any particular tag would be wai would be weight averaged 4 start and en for start and end. I don't think it's as difficult as one might imagine.
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#7
The server would keep statistics for everyone's uploads. So instead of downloading everyone's individual skip files they would be downloading a averaged composite that the server maintains. It would contain the list of tags and where each skip section starts and ends. If a person or a parent wants to play back a movie using this skip mode they just enable the extension or we might call it an a or we might call it an add on and movies would automatically skip sins that match tags that parents or morally sensitive people had chose that parents or morally sensitive people had chosen. If wanted a If wanted as an actual optional parameter the video could show cigarette burns in the upper right corner for a split second to indicate skip scenes happening.
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#8
There could be a slider in the settings of the add-on that would allow you to adjust the wai that would allow you to adjust the weight by percentil that would allow you to adjust the weight by percentile. For example if you set it to the 80th percentile it could automatically select the tags that fit into the 80' the tags that fit into the 80th percentile. If you want it to automatically select 100% of Semitic tags then they would all be selected by default on movies going forwar then they would all be selected by default on movies going forward. If you set it to 100% then automatically 100% of known tags will be selected for skipping. If you set it to the 20th percentile then only the top 20 percent of tags common to all submitted skip sins would be selected by defaul of tags common to all submitted skip sins would be selected by default. When you start a movie you could click on the safe play logo or button and it would allow you to check or uncheck any tags independently of percentile setting.
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#9
, a new skip marker can be set by clicking a skip button and it would ask you either select or create a tag for the gif either select or create a tag for the gift. It would allow you to adjust the start and stop with both course an both coarse and fin both coarse and fine adjustmen both coarse and fine adjustment. And then submit the step when you have the adjustment set the way that you wan when you have the adjustment set the way that you want. This would of course be immediately sent to the server based on the file name and or movie matching meta tag identification etc
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#10
At this point, the request is something that we don't have the resources for. You're looking to make a whole website, system, and community, that would need their own support and whatnot.
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#11
Firstly, why don't you control your children?
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#12
(2015-07-21, 14:17)GregiBoy Wrote: Firstly, why don't you control your children?

Your response is offensive. It is also useless.

why do you lack imagination? As an adult there are scenes in movies that I don't care to see either.
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