Win Intel HTPCs/NUCs & Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - Printable Version +- Kodi Community Forum (https://forum.kodi.tv) +-- Forum: Discussions (https://forum.kodi.tv/forumdisplay.php?fid=222) +--- Forum: Hardware (https://forum.kodi.tv/forumdisplay.php?fid=112) +--- Thread: Win Intel HTPCs/NUCs & Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback (/showthread.php?tid=266316) Pages:
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RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - p750mmx - 2017-03-14 (2017-03-13, 22:01)rahulkadukar Wrote:You have a Oled TV? Then go for it and forget the whole "MVC" part. 3D (like the BluRay format), will be stunning in Interlaced mode with this Afedchin build.(2017-03-13, 15:26)p750mmx Wrote: How does the rest of your setup looks like? Do you use a receiver? If so, which one? What TV do you have? I have chosen for a non NUC-alike solution with an HDMI 1.4 port but actually using the available DisplayPort with a converter to HDMI 2.0a. I don't think 3D can be any better displayed then what one is getting on a passive 4k Oled TV, this is my opinion, period. Up till now I don't regret my choice, but maybe later on, when the W10 Creators Update has been released, that could be different regarding displaying HDR with my HTPC. Time will tell. Is there a reason you will connect the HTPC directly to the TV and not trough your receiver? RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - Korrigan - 2017-03-14 (2017-03-14, 15:49)p750mmx Wrote: You have a Oled TV? Then go for it and forget the whole "MVC" part. 3D (like the BluRay format), will be stunning in Interlaced mode with this Afedchin build.Hm wait does that mean you can just do 1080p MVC to 4K interlaced on OLED passive 3D? That must be amazing. RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - p750mmx - 2017-03-14 (2017-03-14, 16:16)Korrigan Wrote:That is what I been telling for a while now in this topic, and most LG Oled 4K owners feel the same way when reading their responses. I've asked what I should be missing by not selecting the "hardware" option when 3D is displayed in a Interlaced 4k resolution, I didn't get an answer on that (or maybe overlooked it?).(2017-03-14, 15:49)p750mmx Wrote: You have a Oled TV? Then go for it and forget the whole "MVC" part. 3D (like the BluRay format), will be stunning in Interlaced mode with this Afedchin build.Hm wait does that mean you can just do 1080p MVC to 4K interlaced on OLED passive 3D? That must be amazing. Maybe Afedchin build something very special, for us 4k Oled owners, without realizing it? RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - movie78 - 2017-03-14 I was really upset losing my 3D DLP projection but with my new 4K LG passive 3D TV, the passive 3D look really looks good, I don't is because the TV is 4k has anything to do with it. RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - rahulkadukar - 2017-03-14 (2017-03-14, 15:49)p750mmx Wrote: You have a Oled TV? Then go for it and forget the whole "MVC" part. 3D (like the BluRay format), will be stunning in Interlaced mode with this Afedchin build. I receiver does not seem to do HDR very well. In this case I could connect it through the receiver (as 3D does not involve HDR). I have noticed that the 3D looks amazing (best I have ever seen) if I play the disc on the Xbox One S. However I do not want to keep changing discs and wanted to rip them to a NAS and then play them from there. I tried interlaced on a older Kodi build and the results were not that spectacular (the 3D was not 3D enough). I am now planning to build a HTPC using Kaby Lake Pentium G4600 with a AsRock Z270 board with HDMI 1.4 My question is should I use hardware mode or interlaced mode ? RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - p750mmx - 2017-03-14 (2017-03-14, 17:18)rahulkadukar Wrote:I saw the receiver has HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 support, but missing the "a" specification on HDMI? In that case, HDR isn't a option, you're correct.(2017-03-14, 15:49)p750mmx Wrote: You have a Oled TV? Then go for it and forget the whole "MVC" part. 3D (like the BluRay format), will be stunning in Interlaced mode with this Afedchin build. In relation to displaying 3D. If the motherboard has HDMI 1.4 only, then you could go for a 1080p/60Hz resolution and the "hardware" choice or for a 4k/30Hz solution and choose Interlace. I would prefer the 1080p option with HDMI 1.4 only as a available connection. RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - 3DBuff - 2017-03-14 (2017-03-14, 17:43)p750mmx Wrote:(2017-03-14, 17:18)rahulkadukar Wrote: ......I saw the receiver has HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 support, but missing the "a" specification on HDMI? In that case, HDR isn't a option, you're correct. Interesting question: What is the difference between Hardware mode and Interlaced mode? I don't have a hardware for this so I can't test it. Hardware mode will reproduce true 3D Blu-Ray MVC "Frame Packing" 2 frames of 1080p one at the top each other 1,920 x 2,205 at 24fps (black gap between 2 frames). Interlace mode should be done in the player (computer or video card) to upconvert and produce 3840x2160 line-interlaced 3D video stream. As long as you don't have some sort of overscan and scaling going on with the display showing 1 to 1 pixel ratio you should be able to see correct 3D with passive glasses and 4K display. Is that what we are talking with interlaced mode? If interlace mode is same kind of 1080p with both frames interlaced than "hardware mode" 3D MVC frame packing has to be better. RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - p750mmx - 2017-03-14 (2017-03-14, 18:12)3DBuff Wrote:Maybe you should be asking; "What is the difference between 3D MVC 1080p Hardware mode and 3D 4k Interlaced mode?" and as a next question "is the difference also visible?"(2017-03-14, 17:43)p750mmx Wrote:(2017-03-14, 17:18)rahulkadukar Wrote: ......I saw the receiver has HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 support, but missing the "a" specification on HDMI? In that case, HDR isn't a option, you're correct. Edit: Maybe I should remark that my HTPC setup is putting out a 4k signal to the receiver when playing a 3D BR iso. No up-scaling is done by receiver. RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - Korrigan - 2017-03-14 (2017-03-14, 18:19)p750mmx Wrote: Maybe you should be asking; "What is the difference between 3D MVC 1080p Hardware mode and 3D 4k Interlaced mode?" and as a next question "is the difference also visible?"That's exactly my question. If it really takes the two 1080p MVC frames and generates one interlaced 4k frame from it (without loss of information) then 3d should be equal... or even superior? RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - safcsat - 2017-03-14 (2017-03-14, 19:14)Korrigan Wrote:(2017-03-14, 18:19)p750mmx Wrote: Maybe you should be asking; "What is the difference between 3D MVC 1080p Hardware mode and 3D 4k Interlaced mode?" and as a next question "is the difference also visible?"That's exactly my question. If it really takes the two 1080p MVC frames and generates one interlaced 4k frame from it (without loss of information) then 3d should be equal... or even superior? Comparing 3D MVC @1080p on the Rpi3 and the same 3D file in interlaced mode on 2160p LG OLED...the latter is absolutely better. It is simply breathtaking! I was also wondering if I am actually missing out by not having 3D Hardware MVC available...maybe the answer, with the OLED, is no! RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - 3DBuff - 2017-03-14 (2017-03-14, 19:33)safcsat Wrote: Comparing 3D MVC @1080p on the Rpi3 and the same 3D file in interlaced mode on 2160p LG OLED...the latter is absolutely better. It is simply breathtaking! Can you look at the signal info on you OLED when used in 3D interlaced mode and confirm that you are actually getting 4K x 2K at 24fps? RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - safcsat - 2017-03-14 (2017-03-14, 19:47)3DBuff Wrote:(2017-03-14, 19:33)safcsat Wrote: Comparing 3D MVC @1080p on the Rpi3 and the same 3D file in interlaced mode on 2160p LG OLED...the latter is absolutely better. It is simply breathtaking! It doesn't show the refresh rate, but it does show the signal is 2160p, so it is definitely that resolution. RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - p750mmx - 2017-03-14 (2017-03-14, 19:47)3DBuff Wrote:On mine it says >> [3D][3840x2160@24Hz] << when moving the LG remote pointer to the top of the screen when playing 3D media by Kodi.(2017-03-14, 19:33)safcsat Wrote: Comparing 3D MVC @1080p on the Rpi3 and the same 3D file in interlaced mode on 2160p LG OLED...the latter is absolutely better. It is simply breathtaking! RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - 3DBuff - 2017-03-14 OK guys, we have new 3D 4K standard on OLED. I gotta get me one of those RE: Intel HTPC/NUC's w/reliable Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback - safcsat - 2017-03-14 (2017-03-14, 20:20)3DBuff Wrote: OK guys, we have new 3D 4K standard on OLED. The best money you will ever spend! 65 inch OLEDE6V - amazing set. |