(2015-10-12, 14:08)mikesilvo164 Wrote: Here is where design constraints come into play... I can easily separate submenu from main menu but to easily incorporate the two, simplification seemed the best so I could not add the infoline to the layout since properties do not work inside them, while this can be overcome, the outcome was a ballooning of the code and that is what I try to avoid first and foremost... The current implementation is if you have a submenu picked for the item the first click opens the submenu and the second will open the item:
Here is another pic showing the Movies submenu open:


As stated all of this is currently up in the air so suggestions and opinions are welcome.

My current opinion of widgets would be to center align them just like the main menu item. Widgets however are exclusive to Mr. V and his choice so a suggestion/request to his thread would be where that should go

(2015-10-13, 12:22)UsefulG Wrote: I'm with @Warner306, I would like the submenu to slide out to the right of the vertical menu. It feels counter intuitive to click once to open submenu but then clicking again opens the main menu item rather than closing it.

(2015-10-13, 12:55)mikesilvo164 Wrote: I'm having a hard time seeing how placing the submenu horizontally when selecting to use a vertical menu makes more sense...
Does anybody have any examples of this?

In my opinion the submenu should not cover items like widgets or protrude outside the menu background and all I am picturing is this:

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Not that unintuitive in my using of it, onclick opens submenu if you have one and onback closes it. The way it opens can be changed to something else but you have to think of all options for instance onright would block navigation to widgets.
Design constraints All possible chosen options need to be accounted for.
If anybody wants to try it I believe the skin reFocus uses the same for its vertical menu.

(2015-10-13, 13:09)martinconroy Wrote: Hi Mike,

Thanks for the pointer. I guess what becomes apparent when trying reFocus (as I have just done) is that things DO work once you get used to them. I suppose my argument is that I expect when using navigation buttons that opposite buttons have the opposite effect. i.e. in a horizontal menu it's "down" to get to the submenu, and "up" to get back to the main menu. What seems a little unnatural in this vertical case is that it's "select" to open the menu and "left" to close it. What I do really like on reFocus is the "key" which shows what happens when you click buttons. i.e. on Movies click right to see a Recent movie, then it's up/down to scroll these.

Basically, on reflection, I think something like reFocus WOULD work, it would just take some getting used to. I think the (optional?) display of a key to aid navigation would be great if possible.

(2015-10-13, 13:17)Mr. V Wrote: Another possible design for the vertical menu using the MediaStream background with the widget centered.

(2015-10-13, 12:55)mikesilvo164 Wrote: I'm having a hard time seeing how placing the submenu horizontally when selecting to use a vertical menu makes more sense...
Does anybody have any examples of this?

In my opinion the submenu should not cover items like widgets or protrude outside the menu background and all I am picturing is this:

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Not that unintuitive in my using of it, onclick opens submenu if you have one and onback closes it. The way it opens can be changed to something else but you have to think of all options for instance onright would block navigation to widgets.
Design constraints All possible chosen options need to be accounted for.
If anybody wants to try it I believe the skin reFocus uses the same for its vertical menu.