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- dbldown768 - 2008-12-30
what about a power supply? did you have to order one separate and what size did you get?
EDIT: oops... looks like case comes with the power supply. Is that the case you ordered as well? Or can you get any micro atx case as well...
- jochenz - 2008-12-30
on several websites I see reviews and benchmarks that claime that the Intel E2180 can outrun a dual core 2 x 3,4 GHz.
This processor is alot cheaper. But would it be a good choice? any advise?
- spozen - 2008-12-30
dbldown768 Wrote:what about a power supply? did you have to order one separate and what size did you get?
EDIT: oops... looks like case comes with the power supply. Is that the case you ordered as well? Or can you get any micro atx case as well...
Nope i have a desktop case and a ATX2.0 compilable power supply aka 400W and 24 pin connector. So no i can't really give you any recommendations on cases but look for power supplys with 120mm fans they are pretty silent.
But how hard can it be to find a case you like?
If you have the money you can buy a HTPC case with dispay and remote and all that or you could just buy a matx case and modded it your self with display and such, it's up to you.
jochenz Wrote:on several websites I see reviews and benchmarks that claime that the Intel E2180 can outrun a dual core 2 x 3,4 GHz.
This processor is alot cheaper. But would it be a good choice? any advise?
Maybe you can link to that source of yours, what i know so far is that it's a 2GHz processor and people say 3GHz is mimium for 1080p/killa sampler.
- dbldown768 - 2008-12-30
since i have never really built a machine before, do I need to also purchase artic silver for the heatsinks or is this already in the box?
Also, I would like to use my logitech harmony remote with this box as well... so at some point I will need to get the IR sensor.
- spozen - 2008-12-30
If the CPU is marked/namned "Box" it means heatsinks & cooler is in the box. If it's marked/namned "Tray" it doesn't come with any heatsink/cooler.
Example:
Code:
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3,0GHz Tray
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3,0GHz BoxAs for ir sensor, i have no idea but i guess you can get a ir sensor somewhere seen people using the Xbox remote in linux.
- BLKMGK - 2008-12-30
Here's a thought for possible cheap IR sources http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=2959.0 from another forum I frequent
However *I* have not tried that one - note that it is a SERIAL based remote not USB. My systems are using older Microsoft MCE based remote receivers, these are plug n' play with Lirc and USB. Some folks are now trying Vista MCE remotes, waiting to hear back on those. The old XBOX receiver can be wired up supposedly, I've not done it but instructions exist.The case in that wishlist has a 20pin P/S and not the 24 the motherboard uses. Pissed me off till I plugged in the 20pin connector and it booted right up - and has been working 24X7 ever since
so that case in the wishlist is fine, not pretty, but fine. Lots of cases out there, heck build one out of plywood and slap a P/S in it if you want! I think I am "over" the whole expensive HTPC case with funky IR receivers and LCD displays that you cannot see and must patch to drive - grr...I would imagine the CPU "test" being talked about is a dual core CPU NOT a Core2Duo - big difference. I only recommend what I've tried and I've even tried some stuff that didn't work
If I haven't tried it and don't know I will say so but I am betting that 2ghz CPU ain't going to cut it <cough>
- spozen - 2008-12-30
BLKMGK
It's going to be hard for him to use that because he wants a remote to the P5N7A-VM board, you have to connect the serial port manually on the board since it doesn't have a serial port.
- dbldown768 - 2008-12-30
Great feedback. So the power supply included in the cheap case is enough to power the system? When do you know you're starting to stretch/starve the system of power otherwise?
As far as IR. I would probably keep it simple and get something that works with the USB. I do want to use my harmony remote, as everything else in my entertainment system works with it and I dont want to fumble around with any other remotes. From what I have read, it sounds like people are able to use their harmony remotes just fine.
- spozen - 2008-12-30
dbldown768,
Unless you are using 2 or 4 gf cards and a quad core CPU you won't have to worry about power, if you ask me all the watts and shit is overrated i have always bought the cheapest PSUs avaible and i never had any problems what so ever.
- Waffa - 2008-12-30
dbldown768 Wrote:Great feedback. So the power supply included in the cheap case is enough to power the system? When do you know you're starting to stretch/starve the system of power otherwise?
As far as IR. I would probably keep it simple and get something that works with the USB. I do want to use my harmony remote, as everything else in my entertainment system works with it and I dont want to fumble around with any other remotes. From what I have read, it sounds like people are able to use their harmony remotes just fine.
I'm also curios which receiver people use with the harmony.
Read some stuff about the MCE-receiver and USB-UIRT.
- BLKMGK - 2008-12-31
spozen Wrote:BLKMGK
It's going to be hard for him to use that because he wants a remote to the P5N7A-VM board, you have to connect the serial port manually on the board since it doesn't have a serial port.
ah thanks, I do think it might be a decent idea for folks who can use them and it's drit cheap!
Anyway, an MCE remote works fine and the Harmony using MCE codes talks to it perfectly well too - is what I have had setup before.
As for P/S I am with you - too many people play the "mine's bigger" game with these silly things and often times they do not even put out claimed power. Checkout some of the abuse these guys dish out in their reviews!-> http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/673
For this build using onboard graphics and a 45nm 65watt CPU the little 270watt P/S in that case is fine. Not totally silent, not super efficient, but it's doing the job on the one I built. Cruise around the NewEgg site - there are some other cheap cases with higher rated P/S too if you're nervous...
Waffa - that is a neat IRDA receiver but $50?! Holy crap, that's nutz! You want something liek this -> http://cgi.ebay.com/IR-RECEIVER-for-MICROSOFT-VISTA-Media-Center_W0QQitemZ160307250340QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_Mice_Trackballs?hash=item160307250340&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
or this http://cgi.ebay.com/HAUPPAUGE-MCE-MEDIA-CENTER-XBOX-360-REMOTE-CONTROL_W0QQitemZ200291322908QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Input_Peripherals?hash=item200291322908&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A2|294%3A50
P.S. Dell and Gateway made remotes for MCE too I think, they may still be available too. Lots of remotes on eBay, fewer receivers...
- pilluli - 2009-01-01
Hi guys,
After reading this whole thread and some more, I think I found my htpc to replace my beloved xbox (and xbmc). What do yout guys think of these:
- Asus P5N7A-VM Socket 775
- Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHZ
- Kingston ValueRAM DDR2 667 PC2-5300 2GB
- Western Digital Caviar GP 500GB 5400rpm SATA2 MAESTRO
- Tacens Theca box
I'm not sure about the P/S. I want a quiet one but unsure of the wattage as I couldn't find any information for the motherboard. Do you guys recommend anything?
later,
- BLKMGK - 2009-01-01
If you look in the NewEgg wishlist I posted the case I used has a 270watt P/S. That machine is happily purring along with no issues. If you're going to be buying the P/S get one that is 80+ certified and has things like active fan control to keep noise down and efficiency up. I have used these kinds of P/S in other builds and the draw from the wall is noticeably better!
- SpiffBB - 2009-01-01
pilluli Wrote:...Nice motherboard and CPU but check the RAM, I think it will run better with DDR2 800mhz PC 6400 memories. Cant say anything about the case, its personal what you like.
What do yout guys think of these:
- Asus P5N7A-VM Socket 775
- Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHZ
- Kingston ValueRAM DDR2 667 PC2-5300 2GB
- Western Digital Caviar GP 500GB 5400rpm SATA2 MAESTRO
- Tacens Theca box
...
/O
- succo - 2009-01-01
a little ot, but i tried to modify the code for alsa 1.0.18a to recognize hdmi output on my 7150 hdmi, and now my aplay -l looks like this
Code:
**** Lista di PLAYBACK dispositivi hardware ****
scheda 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], dispositivo 0: ALC883 Analog [ALC883 Analog]
Sottoperiferiche: 0/1
Sottoperiferica #0: subdevice #0
scheda 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], dispositivo 1: ALC883 Digital [ALC883 Digital]
Sottoperiferiche: 1/1
Sottoperiferica #0: subdevice #0
scheda 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], dispositivo 3: NVIDIA HDMI [NVIDIA HDMI]
Sottoperiferiche: 1/1
Sottoperiferica #0: subdevice #0and an iec958 1 switch appeared in alsamixer
but (strangely as it was there before) hdmi disappeared from aplay -L
Code:
default:CARD=NVidia
HDA NVidia, ALC883 Analog
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
HDA NVidia, ALC883 Analog
Front speakers
surround40:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
HDA NVidia, ALC883 Analog
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
HDA NVidia, ALC883 Analog
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
HDA NVidia, ALC883 Analog
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
HDA NVidia, ALC883 Analog
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
HDA NVidia, ALC883 Analog
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
HDA NVidia, ALC883 Digital
IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
null
Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)the output from amixer info is like this
Code:
Card default 'NVidia'/'HDA NVidia at 0xefff8000 irq 23'
Mixer name : 'Generic 10de NVIDIA MCP73 HDMI'
Components : 'HDA:10ec0883,10ec0000,00100002 HDA:10de8001,10de0101,00100000'
Controls : 39
Simple ctrls : 20Code:
numid=34,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=1
: values=on
numid=33,iface=MIXER,name='Master Playback Volume'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=31,step=0
: values=31
| dBscale-min=-46.50dB,step=1.50dB,mute=0
numid=11,iface=MIXER,name='Headphone Playback Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=2
: values=on,on
numid=39,iface=MIXER,name='PCM Playback Volume'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---RW-,values=2,min=0,max=255,step=0
: values=255,255
| dBscale-min=-51.00dB,step=0.20dB,mute=0
numid=19,iface=MIXER,name='Front Mic Boost'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=2,min=0,max=3,step=0
: values=3,3
| dBscale-min=0.00dB,step=10.00dB,mute=0
numid=15,iface=MIXER,name='Front Mic Playback Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=2
: values=on,on
numid=14,iface=MIXER,name='Front Mic Playback Volume'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=2,min=0,max=31,step=0
: values=31,31
| dBscale-min=-34.50dB,step=1.50dB,mute=0
numid=2,iface=MIXER,name='Front Playback Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=2
: values=on,on
numid=1,iface=MIXER,name='Front Playback Volume'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=2,min=0,max=31,step=0
: values=31,31
| dBscale-min=-46.50dB,step=1.50dB,mute=0
numid=4,iface=MIXER,name='Surround Playback Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=2
: values=on,on
numid=3,iface=MIXER,name='Surround Playback Volume'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=2,min=0,max=31,step=0
: values=31,31
| dBscale-min=-46.50dB,step=1.50dB,mute=0
numid=7,iface=MIXER,name='Center Playback Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=1
: values=on
numid=5,iface=MIXER,name='Center Playback Volume'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=31,step=0
: values=31
| dBscale-min=-46.50dB,step=1.50dB,mute=0
numid=8,iface=MIXER,name='LFE Playback Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=1
: values=on
numid=6,iface=MIXER,name='LFE Playback Volume'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=1,min=0,max=31,step=0
: values=31
| dBscale-min=-46.50dB,step=1.50dB,mute=0
numid=17,iface=MIXER,name='Line Playback Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=2
: values=on,on
numid=16,iface=MIXER,name='Line Playback Volume'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=2,min=0,max=31,step=0
: values=31,31
| dBscale-min=-34.50dB,step=1.50dB,mute=0
numid=18,iface=MIXER,name='Mic Boost'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=2,min=0,max=3,step=0
: values=3,3
| dBscale-min=0.00dB,step=10.00dB,mute=0
numid=13,iface=MIXER,name='Mic Playback Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=2
: values=on,on
numid=12,iface=MIXER,name='Mic Playback Volume'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=2,min=0,max=31,step=0
: values=31,31
| dBscale-min=-34.50dB,step=1.50dB,mute=0
numid=21,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=2
: values=on,on
numid=23,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Switch',index=1
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=2
: values=off,off
numid=20,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Volume'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=2,min=0,max=31,step=0
: values=21,21
| dBscale-min=-12.00dB,step=1.50dB,mute=0
numid=22,iface=MIXER,name='Capture Volume',index=1
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=2,min=0,max=31,step=0
: values=31,31
| dBscale-min=-12.00dB,step=1.50dB,mute=0
numid=30,iface=MIXER,name='IEC958 Default PCM Playback Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=1
: values=on
numid=26,iface=MIXER,name='IEC958 Playback Con Mask'
; type=IEC958,access=r-------,values=1
: values=[AES0=0x0f AES1=0xff AES2=0x00 AES3=0x00]
numid=35,iface=MIXER,name='IEC958 Playback Con Mask',index=1
; type=IEC958,access=r-------,values=1
: values=[AES0=0x0f AES1=0xff AES2=0x00 AES3=0x00]
numid=27,iface=MIXER,name='IEC958 Playback Pro Mask'
; type=IEC958,access=r-------,values=1
: values=[AES0=0x0f AES1=0x00 AES2=0x00 AES3=0x00]
numid=36,iface=MIXER,name='IEC958 Playback Pro Mask',index=1
; type=IEC958,access=r-------,values=1
: values=[AES0=0x0f AES1=0x00 AES2=0x00 AES3=0x00]
numid=28,iface=MIXER,name='IEC958 Playback Default'
; type=IEC958,access=rw------,values=1
: values=[AES0=0x04 AES1=0x82 AES2=0x00 AES3=0x02]
numid=37,iface=MIXER,name='IEC958 Playback Default',index=1
; type=IEC958,access=rw------,values=1
: values=[AES0=0x04 AES1=0x00 AES2=0x00 AES3=0x00]
numid=29,iface=MIXER,name='IEC958 Playback Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=1
: values=on
numid=38,iface=MIXER,name='IEC958 Playback Switch',index=1
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=1
: values=on
numid=32,iface=MIXER,name='IEC958 Capture Default'
; type=IEC958,access=r-------,values=1
: values=[AES0=0x04 AES1=0x00 AES2=0x00 AES3=0x00]
numid=31,iface=MIXER,name='IEC958 Capture Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=1
: values=on
numid=24,iface=MIXER,name='Input Source'
; type=ENUMERATED,access=rw------,values=1,items=3
; Item #0 'Mic'
; Item #1 'Front Mic'
; Item #2 'Line'
: values=0
numid=25,iface=MIXER,name='Input Source',index=1
; type=ENUMERATED,access=rw------,values=1,items=3
; Item #0 'Mic'
; Item #1 'Front Mic'
; Item #2 'Line'
: values=0
numid=10,iface=MIXER,name='Side Playback Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw------,values=2
: values=on,on
numid=9,iface=MIXER,name='Side Playback Volume'
; type=INTEGER,access=rw---R--,values=2,min=0,max=31,step=0
: values=31,31
| dBscale-min=-46.50dB,step=1.50dB,mute=0so, i guess, OR hdmi audio has to be driven in some different way in MCP73 (mine) and MCP79/79/7A (currently supported) OR, maybe, there is no hdmi audio support (yet) on ALC883
has anyone any clues?