[mattyspurs76]

1 - all widgets have loaded up, nice and quick, i use low horizontal menu with all 4 widgets available. So far so good.
2 - Still cannot edit a submenu so i will reset all my menus, just noticed walking deads availble so might be tomorrow as i want to watch this before i start messing around.

1) OK, great. In that case you can ignore my previous reply. I always read the forum messages in chonological order.
2) What do you mean exactly with this ? What happens or what's not working exactly ?

OK, its a 'Games' menu that i need to amend. i want to add Steam addon to the submenu. I currently have some game addons in the submenu, random youtube playlists and video game walkthroughs too aswell.
Now, main menu..go to game menu and addon thats linked up to it works fine. Press down to bring the submenu up, everything looks ok, all items are there and when i click on them they load up...it all seems as it should.

So, i now go to add 'Steam' to the submenu. Settings - skin settings - etc... i go to Game menu and then scroll down to edit submenu. Open that up and then....empty, everything is empty. No items in the left hand column, right hand column where is shows links and widgets is also empty. I left my pc alone for 20minutes on this menu last night, thought id leave it and maybe it would load up, but nope. Empty. If i click on add item then an error popped up.

Now, as i mentioned in an earlier post I installed my jarvis backup onto a clean install of krypton so im 'presuming' that this is the cause of the problem. I do and will need to look at a way of setting it all up again.

Either, clean install of kodi again, and reinstall repo's and addons. (the long way round), or i might try and reset the skin and build the menus up again. I dont really want to do a fresh install and if i can get back to a more default kodi setting but keep all video/music addons etc then that would be a time saver for me.

Bit busy the next few days and im at work right now as im typing this but i will try and look into it maybe Thursday afternoon (uk time)