(2012-07-04, 06:08)blugh Wrote: (Replying to an older post, since this is an even bigger problem today than it was in October...)
(2011-10-01, 01:39)Ned Scott Wrote: Oh for fuck's sake. This won't last long. They'll either get waves of bitching and eventually buckle, or a ripping group will do a proper encode with those groups' subs included.
This is foolish. The *only* stuff using 10-bit is anime, and today, almost no fansubbed anime is available except in 10-bit. There are no "waves of bitching"; anime is a tiny niche for hardware manufacturers. Clueless fansubbers have collectively screwed everyone not running on an expensive, noisy, full-blown PC, and there's no solution in sight, beyond killing quality by transcoding everything.
Oh, there are waves of bitching, but they're just not as big as I thought they would be. I see them all the time in torrent comments, fansub websites, and here on the XBMC forums. What's calmed a lot of people down is that there are "8-bit" copies of just about everything out there. Most of these aren't re-encodes from the Hi10P releases, but made from raws, timed up with pre-existing subs.
The other element is the growing number of simulcasts. Either people are watching the actual simulcasts from the official/licensed websites, or they're using groups that rip from them (such as Horrible Subs, which only does "8-bit" releases).
Several groups continue to provide High Profile (8-bit) releases directly, and some don't release Hi10P versions at all.
Quote:anime is a tiny niche for hardware manufacturers.
Yeah, I know, I've pointed this out several times in this thread and on other websites. Perhaps you've misunderstood me, but I meant the bitching would be directed at fansub groups, not hardware manufacturers.
But yes, a lot of fansub groups out there are clueless and expect us all to run noisy, desktop grade HTPCs. While it might mean waiting a bit longer than what some speed-sub groups do, there are still good quality "8-bit" versions of just about everything on air today.
Hopefully in a few years, when h.265 has taken over, and hardware decoders for that are common/affordable, things will stabilize for a few more years like it did for a while with h.264 High Profile.