My point is that I've seen people sanctioned for much less, and while those posts are not the only ones in question, and do not provide the full picture, as the conversation went to PM after this, you know they were still breaching forum rules in place at the time. Xbmc had already stopped ice films etc being hosted here at the time of these posts, so the rules were currently in place, at least placeholders were.
If you read all Andys posts in that thread, about how xbmc.org hosted these plugins without issue previously blah blah blah (prior to the rule change), how it was ok to say things like "stick it to the man for free ppv events" and advertise that openly in here etc... And that it was OK for him to openly advertise a plugin on here (xbmc.org) that required current active xbmc.org registered users to be forced registered on his questionable site, just to activate the plugin!??
My point was (and i dont think i get my points accross well on text) is that xbmc was allowing them to post plugins on xbmc.org that forced users to register on his piracy site to enable the plugin? That's mental that you allowed that to go on, yet sanctioned people for much less, like having differences of opinions on non questionable topics etc...
I reported it to xbmc (as a community member) that andys behaviour was unethical, that i was not comfortable visiting xbmc.org, seeing a plugin I liked on HERE, only to be told that I then had to register on a piracy site to get access to the plugin I saw hosted here?!?...
My point was that while you didnt explicitly post in that particular thread that you agree with them, You didn't exactly agree with me, or advise them not to to do forced registration, or not to advocate/promote piracy links etc...
instead you called us girls, told me to stop reporting these types of posts as they were mot rule breaking, and it then went to PMs... But... Aren't you lot doing now exactly what I did back then...
It seems now that they are being banned, months later, for exactly the behaviour I disagreed with and reported back then! Behaviour they were previously allowed to do as it only affected me! Just another xbmc contradiction that makes me need to seek clarification of what the hell the rules actually anymore?
It was obvious what they were doing back then, any fool could see wht thy were up to, that's why I reported it!
But for some reason those who questioned it were not backed up by xbmc..
You didn't stop it, you continued to let it happen, you knew it was going on and did nothing then?
The things he (andy) said in that thread (IMO) are ridiculous... And... Are exactly why you banned him now! I was just slightly early to the party as I didn't like the forced registration on a site that promotes piracy, being advocated by xbmc.org
They were being allowed to do this on xbmc.org by xbmc team members, you did not tell them not to do this, they were not being advised that it's not what you want them to do etc etc etc...
It was left to happen even though some members were not comfortable with it...
Now however, it seems that it affects xbmc staff, the tables have turned and they are being banned for EXACTLY the things I complained about back then... Hence again, I just asked for clarity on the rules as I have no idea whats going on anymore.. It's ok to post piracy and be I credibly offensive to members, but not ok to discuss video levels or ffmpeg?
I don't expect to get anywhere with this discussion, no matter what I believe or what I can prove very easily with posts and PMs regarding these types of inconsistacys, as xbmc is always correct, even when they are wrong
It doesn't matter now anyway.. They are gone! I'm glad.
Andy was rude and offensive, as we're many of the rest of them. I saw what they were up to long ago, and i that a long reported it to you. You called me a girl.. 6 months later there banned for exactly tht
You guys saw it a little later on...
Perhaps if we moderated things with a little less bias and caught things like this a little earlier on (like when I set the alarm bells ringing), it wouldn't have got so out of hand, had you stepped in back then, perhaps they wouldn't have taken that extra mile.
If it were me, instead of calling the xbmc community member who reported the offending behaviour a girl, id have looked at the issues being reported, sent xbmchub a PM stating that forcing xbmc.org users to register on a questionable site to get access to a plugin hosted on here is not a practice we wish to condone/progress any further with.
I'd have asked him to change the status, remove the forced registration and links to the site etc and have nipped it in the bud early on ... Perhaps then, they would not have pushed you all as far as they did...
But back then I was alone, I'm just glad you guys caught on eventually amd banned them for what I saw and reported back then.
Anyway, it really doesn't matter, I'm out of this thread, I'm not a fan of the hub, never have been after my Inital meeting with Andy... Shame it took xbmc so long to see what I saw back then.
In the words of Andy Capp
I'm outta here
(2013-02-27, 22:59)PatK Wrote: I saw fullmoonguru's first post.. but didn't have enough time to fully drink it in and when I came back to look for it... it was gone, which in itself is a statement. I personally didn't see anything wrong in it... although I'm aware aware of the friction between repo's and understand the issues. A full deletion of the post didn't seem warranted. Although in light of some of the actions the hub has taken, and what Nat has pointed out, I'll take the stand on the official side of things.
But I did want to ask "PatrickBateman"
Quote:that secretly downloaded and installed a repo that was full of ways of accessing pirated content.
which add-on did this?
Filmon..
Which was posted on 3 seperate occasions by a member who went by the xbmc.org usernames "Film-On Inc" and "fuckyou-amet" ... He was a very hostile and rude little shit bag IMO!
As soon as you downloaded the plugin, it installed the xbmchub style report like that hosts all the plugins.. The one that we can't name in here in fear of a deletion.
Ned also references this plugin here:
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid...pid1350243
Quote:One of their users even posted an add-on that auto-installed the XBMCHUB repo. They try to buy out other websites who want to start their own 3rd party add-on repos. They send us e-mails even now demanding that we link to them on the wiki.