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(2013-08-28, 04:02)drewscm Wrote: Have you thought about transcoding the stream on the server end to lower bit rates and stream to other players across the lan and internet? Not sure if you have looked at this server but they are doing that kind of concept. The server is not working as well as your setup but they are taking it in a few directions.

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid...5&page=119

I was working with that setup before you released the WMC server, but it isn't an easy setup and it doesn't work as well as yours.


Also, I know it is already high on the priority list but channel changing speed is huge. I am trying to setup a system that is "spousal approved", I heard her trying to change the channel last evening and heard a lot

I've found that mapping CH+/- to bring up and cycle through the pvr osd channel list instead of changing channels helps a lot with the slow channel changes.
That's an excellent practical suggestion, teeedubb! Big Grin

The wives will just think it works like this then, and be forced into browsing to the channel they want and THEN changing to it, rather than the normal (IRRITATING!) behaviour of surfing up and down the list... Even on a quick changing PVR I swear my wife is looking at a black channel change screen more than half the time!!!
pvr.wmc TV addon and ServerWMC Backend Development Team
http://bit.ly/ServerWMC
(2013-08-28, 04:46)teeedubb Wrote: I've found that mapping CH+/- to bring up and cycle through the pvr osd channel list instead of changing channels helps a lot with the slow channel changes.

What would the mapping look like for that?
(2013-08-27, 22:32)krustyreturns Wrote:
(2013-08-27, 20:09)captnjack Wrote: This looks awesome. Unfortunately I have TWC so everything is flagged as copy once, are there any plans to add support for encrypted channels? Sorry if this has been answered already, I browsed through the thread but didn't see anything.

-captnjack

Sorry no. PlayReady requires a 30k purchase from MS. Its not going to happen.

On this topic though, a workaround is when the user wants to view a DRM'd channel, the client could launch the live-tv app of wmc and change the channel to the desired channel. This can be handled with the context sensitive wmc app launcher I wrote, so that when wmc's live-tv app is backed out of control goes back into xbmc. The big problem with this is that it requires wmc to be on the client computer along with the tuners, but if your server and client are on the same machine it could be a solution.

(2013-08-27, 22:32)krustyreturns Wrote:
(2013-08-27, 20:09)captnjack Wrote: This looks awesome. Unfortunately I have TWC so everything is flagged as copy once, are there any plans to add support for encrypted channels? Sorry if this has been answered already, I browsed through the thread but didn't see anything.

-captnjack

Sorry no. PlayReady requires a 30k purchase from MS. Its not going to happen.

On this topic though, a workaround is when the user wants to view a DRM'd channel, the client could launch the live-tv app of wmc and change the channel to the desired channel. This can be handled with the context sensitive wmc app launcher I wrote, so that when wmc's live-tv app is backed out of control goes back into xbmc. The big problem with this is that it requires wmc to be on the client computer along with the tuners, but if your server and client are on the same machine it could be a solution.
Windows Media Center PVR addon (pvr.wmc) and server backend (ServerWMC)
http://bit.ly/serverwmc
(2013-08-27, 22:32)krustyreturns Wrote:
(2013-08-27, 20:09)captnjack Wrote: This looks awesome. Unfortunately I have TWC so everything is flagged as copy once, are there any plans to add support for encrypted channels? Sorry if this has been answered already, I browsed through the thread but didn't see anything.

-captnjack

Sorry no. PlayReady requires a 30k purchase from MS. Its not going to happen.

Kickstarter anybody? Angel
Awesome work Krusty, keep it up.

For those of you with the SLOW CHANNEL Change problems, this was also happening in NextPVR and was mostly fixed by a Special Build of Frodo 12.2 (released by Margro). This was mentioned on page 5, but you can download it from here... http://www.scintilla.utwente.nl/~marcelg...html#frodo

I used the first one listed (not the one that uses DSPlayer), and it makes channel changes just a couple of seconds (verses the 8-10 seconds I was seeing).

These changes were supposed to be released in the official Frodo 12.2, but didn't for some reason, which is why Margro made this build of XBMC.

Hope this helps you all, as Krusty's work on this is awesome. Way better than using NextPVR, which I had all kinds of issues with.

Also, for those of you who use the skin ACE, MarcosQui (ACE skin creator), is going to put this into his next version of ACE (I believe in version 1.8, the current release is version 1.7). You can read about it here...http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=160636&page=2
powerhouse - do you notice faster channel change times using margos build with this as the backend?

^^^ fixing : direct link : http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid...pid1494250
(2013-08-28, 19:34)Powerhouse Wrote: Awesome work Krusty, keep it up.

For those of you with the SLOW CHANNEL Change problems, this was also happening in NextPVR and was mostly fixed by a Special Build of Frodo 12.2 (released by Margro). This was mentioned on page 5, but you can download it from here... http://www.scintilla.utwente.nl/~marcelg...html#frodo

I used the first one listed (not the one that uses DSPlayer), and it makes channel changes just a couple of seconds (verses the 8-10 seconds I was seeing).

These changes were supposed to be released in the official Frodo 12.2, but didn't for some reason, which is why Margro made this build of XBMC.

Hope this helps you all, as Krusty's work on this is awesome. Way better than using NextPVR, which I had all kinds of issues with.

Also, for those of you who use the skin ACE, MarcosQui (ACE skin creator), is going to put this into his next version of ACE (I believe in version 1.8, the current release is version 1.7). You can read about it here...http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=160636&page=2

Krusty- thanks for all your work on this. I've got it installed on my Windows 7 x64 working well with 12.2 (w Aeon Nox skin). I just grab OTA channels with a Hauppauge 2250 card. I must say, the EPG with this backend is way better than I was getting with NPVR previously.

My channel changes do take a while, so I'm going to try the margo build shortly.

And maybe I just haven't found it yet, but is there a way to schedule a series recording from within XBMC? Right now, I just see the ability to add a timer for a one time recording. But I have my settings complete in WMC with regards to series (new only, keep 5, etc). And there is no problem using WMC to schedule series recordings, just wondering if it a feature that XBMC currently lacks.

Thanks again for this - it's absolutely great!
milkman dan - as an alternative until krustyreturns progresses a bit more maybe try remote potato. I have used that in the past for wmc and it has worked well.
(2013-08-28, 16:07)MeMeMe Wrote:
(2013-08-28, 04:46)teeedubb Wrote: I've found that mapping CH+/- to bring up and cycle through the pvr osd channel list instead of changing channels helps a lot with the slow channel changes.

What would the mapping look like for that?

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid...pid1470939
(2013-08-28, 20:11)milkman dan Wrote:
(2013-08-28, 19:34)Powerhouse Wrote: Awesome work Krusty, keep it up.

For those of you with the SLOW CHANNEL Change problems, this was also happening in NextPVR and was mostly fixed by a Special Build of Frodo 12.2 (released by Margro). This was mentioned on page 5, but you can download it from here... http://www.scintilla.utwente.nl/~marcelg...html#frodo

I used the first one listed (not the one that uses DSPlayer), and it makes channel changes just a couple of seconds (verses the 8-10 seconds I was seeing).

These changes were supposed to be released in the official Frodo 12.2, but didn't for some reason, which is why Margro made this build of XBMC.

Hope this helps you all, as Krusty's work on this is awesome. Way better than using NextPVR, which I had all kinds of issues with.

Also, for those of you who use the skin ACE, MarcosQui (ACE skin creator), is going to put this into his next version of ACE (I believe in version 1.8, the current release is version 1.7). You can read about it here...http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=160636&page=2

Krusty- thanks for all your work on this. I've got it installed on my Windows 7 x64 working well with 12.2 (w Aeon Nox skin). I just grab OTA channels with a Hauppauge 2250 card. I must say, the EPG with this backend is way better than I was getting with NPVR previously.

My channel changes do take a while, so I'm going to try the margo build shortly.

And maybe I just haven't found it yet, but is there a way to schedule a series recording from within XBMC? Right now, I just see the ability to add a timer for a one time recording. But I have my settings complete in WMC with regards to series (new only, keep 5, etc). And there is no problem using WMC to schedule series recordings, just wondering if it a feature that XBMC currently lacks.

Thanks again for this - it's absolutely great!

Thanks I appreciate that. And we know channel change speed is a big priority.

I have actually already implemented series recording from xbmc. The problem is xbmc itself doesn't natively support it (so you aren't going to find it by looking hard). To make it work I created custom dialog windows in xml. If the addon finds these xml files in the current skin, it enables series recording. If you want to try it out, here are some instructions I wrote for one of the early testers:

In order to enable the addon to set 'series' recording and 'cancel' series recordings do the following:

Install:
If you look in the ‘resources’ folder of the addon you will see two xml skin files I created for confluence. These files need to be manually added to the confluence skin folder, or you can do what I did, and just create symbolic links to these files in the confluence folder.

If you aren't using confluence you can add these files to the skin folder you are using, but the dialogs will look funky since they are designed for confluence (they should work though). You can modify these files to look right in whatever your skin of choice is if you are so inclined.


Use:
So once installed, when you try to record a show after the initial confirmation, a new dialog will open (if it’s a tv series) asking if you want to record the series - and it has optional series specific settings. Similar for when you go to delete a timer, if it’s a series timer, it will ask you if you want to delete future recordings of the whole series.

If you decide to try it, let me know how it goes. There are more options for series recordings that can be added - wmc has a fairly rich set of options for it, I just implemented a basic subset for now.

--kr
Windows Media Center PVR addon (pvr.wmc) and server backend (ServerWMC)
http://bit.ly/serverwmc
So I had asked the question about putting this on a raspberry pi running openelec and looked like some people were interested. I have no idea how to compile for this to run on an ARM processor, but I am willing to test. I did try running the Linux build on it, but when I enabled it then I get an error. Unfortunately I don't always have a lot of time to play around with things but I will do my best. I also have an android tablet that I installed XBMC on although I will have to figure out how to install the addons.
The current linux builds only work 32/64 intel processors. I don't know what is happening with getting it compiled to ras-pi.
Windows Media Center PVR addon (pvr.wmc) and server backend (ServerWMC)
http://bit.ly/serverwmc
(2013-08-28, 21:42)teeedubb Wrote:
(2013-08-28, 16:07)MeMeMe Wrote:
(2013-08-28, 04:46)teeedubb Wrote: I've found that mapping CH+/- to bring up and cycle through the pvr osd channel list instead of changing channels helps a lot with the slow channel changes.

What would the mapping look like for that?

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid...pid1470939

oh, I see! You just map the CHUP and Down both to bring up the channels list, and then use standed up/down to move between them. Clever yet simple.

Is it possible to map the chup/down keys to work differently in context:
Specifically, when the channel view is onscreen, to move up and down through the list, and when the channel view is not onscreen, to bring it on screen?

Nevermind - I see your link does that, haha. Great work.
(2013-08-28, 20:11)milkman dan Wrote:
(2013-08-28, 19:34)Powerhouse Wrote: Awesome work Krusty, keep it up.

For those of you with the SLOW CHANNEL Change problems, this was also happening in NextPVR and was mostly fixed by a Special Build of Frodo 12.2 (released by Margro). This was mentioned on page 5, but you can download it from here... http://www.scintilla.utwente.nl/~marcelg...html#frodo

I used the first one listed (not the one that uses DSPlayer), and it makes channel changes just a couple of seconds (verses the 8-10 seconds I was seeing).

These changes were supposed to be released in the official Frodo 12.2, but didn't for some reason, which is why Margro made this build of XBMC.

Hope this helps you all, as Krusty's work on this is awesome. Way better than using NextPVR, which I had all kinds of issues with.

Also, for those of you who use the skin ACE, MarcosQui (ACE skin creator), is going to put this into his next version of ACE (I believe in version 1.8, the current release is version 1.7). You can read about it here...http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=160636&page=2

Krusty- thanks for all your work on this. I've got it installed on my Windows 7 x64 working well with 12.2 (w Aeon Nox skin). I just grab OTA channels with a Hauppauge 2250 card. I must say, the EPG with this backend is way better than I was getting with NPVR previously.

My channel changes do take a while, so I'm going to try the margo build shortly.

And maybe I just haven't found it yet, but is there a way to schedule a series recording from within XBMC? Right now, I just see the ability to add a timer for a one time recording. But I have my settings complete in WMC with regards to series (new only, keep 5, etc). And there is no problem using WMC to schedule series recordings, just wondering if it a feature that XBMC currently lacks.

Thanks again for this - it's absolutely great!

Just to update- Running the margo version of 12.2, my channel changes now take around 7 seconds. Used to be around 11 with the stock 12.2 version.
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