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IanPH · 2013-10-29, 10:21

For those who have encrypted channels which XBMC normally doesn't play. Have you ever tried using DVBLink?
I have a subscription to a dutch satellite provider called Canal Digitaal.

DVBLink provides virtual tuners which can be used in WMC. As DVBLink does the decoding (using my Canal Digital card with a common interface) before it's sent to WMC I can watch all the channels, even those that are normally encrypted!

Another question, Is there any news about development of an Android XBMC client? I know Krusty is not. But maybe an other developer in this thread is busy with it?

spaceboy · 2013-10-29, 11:29

also a dvblink user here, it removes the encryption on my sky uk channels through a card in a linux stb meaning once it gets to emc / xbmc its copy freely

krustyreturns · 2013-10-29, 17:03

(2013-10-29, 10:21)IanPH Wrote: For those who have encrypted channels which XBMC normally doesn't play. Have you ever tried using DVBLink?
I have a subscription to a dutch satellite provider called Canal Digitaal.

DVBLink provides virtual tuners which can be used in WMC. As DVBLink does the decoding (using my Canal Digital card with a common interface) before it's sent to WMC I can watch all the channels, even those that are normally encrypted!

Another question, Is there any news about development of an Android XBMC client? I know Krusty is not. But maybe an other developer in this thread is busy with it?

What is the actual dvblink product you use to do this? Also, if you are in the Netherlands, can can you tell me the three letter language descriptor that you find for Dutch? I want to collect these for the wiki page. Start a live stream and afterwords look at the server log for a section like this:

2013/10/29 07:57:16.877 > Audio: ID:30 (eng) AC3 5.1 48000 Hz 384 kb/s
2013/10/29 07:57:16.878 > Audio: ID:31 (spa) AC3 2.0 48000 Hz 192 kb/s
2013/10/29 07:57:16.879 > Video: ID:32 AVC High-4.0 1920x1080i fps: 30000/1001
2013/10/29 07:57:16.880 > Other: ID:33 MS TV Caption

let me know what the three language identifier inside the parentheses. Thanks.

Dilligaf · 2013-10-29, 18:57

Looks like the wtv playback is a known issue, see this thread http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=142662&page=4 Probably best to use the transcoding option for now. Krusty, is there a possibility you can add this option to the server or client app??

krustyreturns · 2013-10-29, 20:14

(2013-10-29, 18:57)Dilligaf Wrote: Looks like the wtv playback is a known issue, see this thread http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=142662&page=4 Probably best to use the transcoding option for now. Krusty, is there a possibility you can add this option to the server or client app??

This doesn't seem right, spaceboy said it only happened on this particular bbc channel - so suggests it doesn't have to do with file size. Also the broadcasts are avc, not mpeg2, and the thread suggests avc is okay.

If I made it an option, it would have to be on the server. I am a little worried that it will cause headaches down the line if people have two different ways of streaming recordings, but maybe that's not a big deal. I will consider it for the next release.

IanPH · 2013-10-29, 20:49

Krusty, I use DVBLink Server with DVBLink TVSource. This uses a plugin that talks to my subscription card which decodes the stream.
I don't want to go into more details (like the name of the plugin e.g) than this as it might attract the wrong crowd.
Anyway, DVBLink Server feeds that decoded stream throught a virtual tuner to WMC.

And here's the language descriptor:

Code:
2013-10-29 19:36:20.246    Remux::FindDescriptors> wtv scanned (5,09 sec), Streams found: 

2013-10-29 19:36:20.250     >  Other: ID:68 MS TV Caption

2013-10-29 19:36:20.252     >  Audio: ID:69 (dut) AC3 5.1 48000 Hz 384 kb/s

2013-10-29 19:36:20.255     >  Video: ID:70 AVC High-4.0 1920x1080i fps: 25

By the way, I read the "7mc WTV large files fail" thread and it's weird they only have trouble with MPEG-2 as I don't even receive MPEG-2 streams from Canal Digitaal. And XBMC stutters on both BBC HD/ ITV HD as well as all HD channels of Canal Digitaal (all h.264/AVC).

Dilligaf · (This post was last modified: 2013-10-29, 21:10 by Dilligaf.)

I'll investigate further, do you know of a simple, free program to make a small clip from a wtv file?

IanPH · 2013-10-29, 20:53

Oh and Krusty, some time ago you asked me to switch to a radio channel and post the log. Well when I switch to a radio channel, XMBC shows a PVR Error and does not play. Here's the log:

Code:
2013-10-29 19:49:58.002    Received client request: 192.168.0.8|OpenLiveStream|84991998|0|103|Slam FM

2013-10-29 19:49:58.003    OpenLiveStream> -----------------start------------------------

2013-10-29 19:49:58.003    OpenLiveStream> client: 192.168.0.8 requesting live stream

2013-10-29 19:49:58.019    WtvToPesDemuxer::Parse> Guid header detects stream end

2013-10-29 19:49:58.022    Pass 'mux2ts':

2013-10-29 19:49:58.022     >  WtvToPesDemuxer::Parse> total guid headers processed: 683.762

2013-10-29 19:49:58.022     >  WtvToPesDemuxer::Parse> total data packets processed: 103.787

2013-10-29 19:49:58.286    Remux> ENDED, >>>>>>>>>> Run Time: 13,63 min <<<<<<<<<<

2013-10-29 19:49:58.298    StreamProc::Close> remux stopped successfully

2013-10-29 19:49:58.300    RecordToWTV::Close> RecorderUse is Passive: False

2013-10-29 19:49:58.548    StreamProc::Close> wtv closed successfully

2013-10-29 19:49:58.598    StreamProc::Close> wtv file size: 827.588.608

2013-10-29 19:49:58.600    StreamProc::Close> file deleted: G:\Recorded TV\TempXBMC\LiveTV_192.168.0.8_DVB-T_3_2013_10_29_19_36_14.wtv

2013-10-29 19:49:58.650    StreamProc::Close> ts file size: 707.526.656

2013-10-29 19:49:58.761    StreamProc::Close> file deleted: G:\Recorded TV\TempXBMC\LiveTV_192.168.0.8_DVB-T_3_2013_10_29_19_36_14.ts

2013-10-29 19:49:58.761    StreamProc::Close> closed in 0,74 sec

2013-10-29 19:49:58.761    Close> closed stream for client: 192.168.0.8

2013-10-29 19:49:58.761    StreamProc> live-tv started

2013-10-29 19:49:58.764    SetChannel> isAlreadyTuned: False

2013-10-29 19:49:58.773    SetChannel> Tuner: DVBLink PBDA Tuner #6 / e6fa0863-36a5-4dff-8228-5916b8bd2dde

2013-10-29 19:49:58.773    SetChannel> > Digital: True

2013-10-29 19:49:58.773    SetChannel> > Encrypted: False

2013-10-29 19:49:58.774    SetChannel> > RecorderInfo found: True

2013-10-29 19:49:58.776    SetChannel > busy: False, client: 

2013-10-29 19:49:58.776    SetChannel> > tuner is available (taking tuner from ) => stopping search

2013-10-29 19:49:58.776    SetChannel> Recorder Content Protection: PROT_COPY_FREE

2013-10-29 19:49:58.778    SetChannel> Recorder acquired: True

2013-10-29 19:49:58.780    SetChannel> TuneRequest set

2013-10-29 19:49:58.838    StreamProc> wtv recording started in 0,08 sec

2013-10-29 19:49:58.838    StreamProc> stream output file: LiveTV_192.168.0.8_DVB-T_103_2013_10_29_19_49_58.ts

2013-10-29 19:49:58.844    StreamProc> started remux thread: 'Slam FM-103: 84991998'

2013-10-29 19:49:58.850    Remux::FindDescriptors> Scanning wtv for streams...

2013-10-29 19:50:00.882    Parse> Guid: 0 took 2,03 sec, it was attempted 990 times

2013-10-29 19:50:02.987    Parse> Last number of attempts for Guid header was large: 1026

2013-10-29 19:50:05.952    Parse> Last number of attempts for Guid header was large: 1464

2013-10-29 19:50:08.444    Parse> Last number of attempts for Guid header was large: 1232

2013-10-29 19:50:08.444    Parse> Encryption guid found, count: 204, stream Id: 72

2013-10-29 19:50:08.858    StreamProc> process start error: Stream file 'ts' does not exist (likely no data was found to remux), timeout: 10.000 ms reached. calling Close()

2013-10-29 19:50:08.860    WtvToPesDemuxer::Parse> Guid header detects stream end

2013-10-29 19:50:08.860    Parse> Descriptor pass done, using 272 guids in 7,98 sec

2013-10-29 19:50:08.860    Parse> Total Descriptor parse time: 10,01 sec

2013-10-29 19:50:08.860    Pass 'Descriptor':

2013-10-29 19:50:08.860     >  WtvToPesDemuxer::Parse> total guid headers processed: 272

2013-10-29 19:50:08.860     >  WtvToPesDemuxer::Parse> total data packets processed: 52

2013-10-29 19:50:08.898    Remux::FindDescriptors> wtv scanned (10,05 sec), Streams found: 

2013-10-29 19:50:08.898     >  Audio: ID:72 (dut) MPEG Audio V1L2 Stereo 48000 Hz 192 kb/s

2013-10-29 19:50:08.898    Remux::FindDescriptors> error: no video stream found - stream will not start

2013-10-29 19:50:08.898    Remux> requesting G:\Recorded TV\TempXBMC\LiveTV_192.168.0.8_DVB-T_103_2013_10_29_19_49_58.wtv be saved from deletion

2013-10-29 19:50:08.898    Remux> ENDED, >>>>>>>>>> Run Time: 0,00 min <<<<<<<<<<

2013-10-29 19:50:08.918    StreamProc::Close> remux stopped successfully

2013-10-29 19:50:08.918    RecordToWTV::Close> RecorderUse is Passive: False

2013-10-29 19:50:08.999    StreamProc::Close> wtv closed successfully

2013-10-29 19:50:09.085    StreamProc::Close> wtv file size: 524.288

2013-10-29 19:50:09.102    StreamProc::Close> error close stream: System.IO.IOException: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.

   at System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)

   at System.IO.File.InternalMove(String sourceFileName, String destFileName, Boolean checkHost)

   at ServerWMC.Worker.StreamProc.Close()

2013-10-29 19:50:09.102    OpenLiveStream> error: Stream file 'ts' does not exist (likely no data was found to remux), timeout: 10.000 ms reached.

2013-10-29 19:50:09.103    Finished request OpenLiveStream in 11,10s

2013-10-29 19:50:09.113    Received client request: 192.168.0.8|CloseLiveStream

2013-10-29 19:50:09.114    CloseLiveStream> -----------------start------------------------

2013-10-29 19:50:09.114    CloseLiveStream> -----------------done-------------------------

2013-10-29 19:50:09.114    Finished request CloseLiveStream in 0,00s

krustyreturns · (This post was last modified: 2013-10-29, 21:15 by krustyreturns.)

(2013-10-29, 20:49)IanPH Wrote: 2013-10-29 19:36:20.252 > Audio: ID:69 (dut) AC3 5.1 48000 Hz 384 kb/s
By the way, I read the "7mc WTV large files fail" thread and it's weird they only have trouble with MPEG-2 as I don't even receive MPEG-2 streams from Canal Digitaal. And XBMC stutters on both BBC HD/ ITV HD as well as all HD channels of Canal Digitaal (all h.264/AVC).

Thanks for tuner info, I will check it out. Also I am glad to add '(dut)' to the list of languages.

The discussion above was only related to rpi systems (unless that is what you are using).

(2013-10-29, 20:51)Dilligaf Wrote: I'll investigate further, do you know of a simple, free program to make a small clip from a wmv file?

I think you mean 'wtv'. I don't have direct experience, but I think dvrmstoolbox can do it, along with ffmpeg, and possibly wtvconverter - all free.

(2013-10-29, 20:53)IanPH Wrote: Oh and Krusty, some time ago you asked me to switch to a radio channel and post the log. Well when I switch to a radio channel, XMBC shows a PVR Error and does not play. Here's the log:

Actually that was really helpful. It gets confused and gives up because it can't find the video stream, but it found the audio stream:

2013-10-29 19:50:08.898 Remux::FindDescriptors> wtv scanned (10,05 sec), Streams found:
2013-10-29 19:50:08.898 > Audio: ID:72 (dut) MPEG Audio V1L2 Stereo 48000 Hz 192 kb/s

maybe radio will be easy to do when the time comes. I still don't understand why a radio station is showing up in your video channels.

thanks!

Stiefelland · 2013-10-30, 00:46

(2013-10-07, 17:19)Slowfoxtrot Wrote:
(2013-10-06, 03:54)Mackster Wrote: Thank you so much for putting this together. This is by far the best solution for those of us using Windows as our primary media server.

Question, is there an Apple TV plug-in yet? I saw that someone was trying to put one together, but not sure if that ever worked or not. That's the only thing keeping this from being 100% on the wife acceptance scale.

Thanks again!

Yes I am still working on this, but am having a difficult time trying to either cross-compile for the ARM architecture from my mac, or compile directly on my Apple TV. I have tried both and both are failing for various reasons. I am trying to work through them but unfortunately I haven't heard from Svanhess in a week or so now. If anyone has experience compiling for iOS or even just creating an Xcode project for xbmc-pvr-addons-frodo, please let me know!

Thanks,
Slowfoxtrot

Krusty, Slowfoxtrot, Mackster, This is the least I can do to give back to this great community: I compiled a ATV2 version of the client (based on 1013). I'm not able to test it at this point as my ATV is currently running a down-level XBMC version. But I'm sure there are some volunteers out there Wink

. Please, let me know where to upload it to. - Thanks, Stiefelland.

krustyreturns · 2013-10-30, 01:34

(2013-10-30, 00:46)Stiefelland Wrote: Krusty, Slowfoxtrot, Mackster, This is the least I can do to give back to this great community: I compiled a ATV2 version of the client (based on 1013). I'm not able to test it at this point as my ATV is currently running a down-level XBMC version. But I'm sure there are some volunteers out there . Please, let me know where to upload it to. - Thanks, Stiefelland.

Wow Stiefelland! That is great contribution!

You can place it on my google drive if you want:
https://drive.google.com/?authuser=0#fol...zFhZmNPWUE

I will pm slowfoxtrot and see if he can test.

As soon as someone tests and confirms it works, I will place it on the download page. Will you be willing to do builds of new client revs in the future?

thanks again, this is really great.

--kr

PS Android next? Smile

spinnaker · 2013-10-30, 02:03

I posted this on the General forum but so far no answers

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=176777

In the hopes that this is actually a WMC PVR addon / server issue, I am posting here.

Basically, I want to be able to group recordings by title. WMC records everything to the same directory so I can see the reason not be grouping. Would it be possible to at least make it appear to xbmc that these files are grouped under their own directory by title? Or maybe soe other way to group them?

aelvion · 2013-10-30, 05:31

hey guys I need some help!

Error when first running:
Admin has disabled 3rd party control of media center.
Unrecoverable Error - ServerWMC will terminate!

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling media center and still no go. any ideas?

krustyreturns · (This post was last modified: 2013-10-30, 05:48 by krustyreturns.)

(2013-10-30, 05:31)aelvion Wrote: hey guys I need some help!

Error when first running:
Admin has disabled 3rd party control of media center.
Unrecoverable Error - ServerWMC will terminate!

I tried uninstalling and reinstalling media center and still no go. any ideas?

That's a new one for me, but I found this:
http://mediacentercontrol.com/forum/inde...68.10;wap2

(2013-10-30, 02:03)spinnaker Wrote: I posted this on the General forum but so far no answers

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=176777

In the hopes that this is actually a WMC PVR addon / server issue, I am posting here.

Basically, I want to be able to group recordings by title. WMC records everything to the same directory so I can see the reason not be grouping. Would it be possible to at least make it appear to xbmc that these files are grouped under their own directory by title? Or maybe soe other way to group them?

I have never received a straight answer on this either. If there is a way to get a hierarchical view in the recordings list I have not found it in the addon interface. But there are enough variables there that I may not have hit on the right combination (and I am not interested in going through the xbmc code). The question you may have a better chance of getting an answer to is to ask if ANY of the pvr addons support a hierarchical view.

If there is in one, let me know which one...

aelvion · 2013-10-30, 07:03

brilliant!

Thanks Krusty, definitely pointed me in the proper direction.
I had several strips in media centered hidden, and the livetv strip altered in the registry. Returning them to default fixed the issue.