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2014-03-08, 11:36
(This post was last modified: 2014-03-08, 11:39 by Ned Scott.)
(2014-03-08, 11:16)FernetMenta Wrote: I don't think you got the point. It does not matter where the referenced build exactly came from. It does not matter who has created the build. The point is that the output is as faulty as the package provided by debian. When do you realize that you do more harm than any good in intentionally providing faulty software.
I thought you were a bit rude to him. I'm not defending anything. I'm not saying people should use these builds. I've never. ever. said that. I agree with you that people shouldn't use this build, but I'm not going to harp on the guy again and again over the few months that he's been doing this. In the meantime, it's tucked away in the experimental repo, and I don't really see that hurting our reputation since people using that repo know it's experimental. Plus it's specifically presented as an unofficial XBMC build from a different group of people. There are far bigger worries out there when it comes to our reputation.
I offer my apologies for even making a big deal out of it. I guess it just struck me in a weird way, or I read into it more than I should.
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2014-03-08, 12:33
(This post was last modified: 2014-03-08, 12:39 by giaur.)
I can see some conflict here. XBMC doesn't want to use standard libraries, instead it uses its own internal patched ffmpeg (but stil it's easy possible to compile without internal ffmpeg, but this option causes xbmc to not work). At the other hand, Debian policy doesn't allow to use internal ffmpeg and it forces to use external ant this will never work.
But there is another way. We don't need to care about weird debian policies. We can create our own repository, containing xbmc compiled correctly. Debian doesn't allow xbmc, so let's create another repo and place packages there, compiled as should. There are a lot of 3rd party repos for debian and we can found there packages and programs that cannot be placed in official Debian (because of restrictive debian policy or any other reason).
Also, I'm not sure if Debian Multimedia is forced to respect all Debian policies, including not allowing to use statically linked libraries - but I may be wrong.
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2014-03-08, 14:48
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This is what I was looking for, I tried checkinstall to eaisly build deb but it fails. Anyway, debian repo is good idea.
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You don't really need packages, you can compile with your custom prefix and do make install.
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Yes giaur, I know this can be done. But I insist on using packages as compiled stuff is hard to update and maintain for a noob like me. Thanks anyway. In the meantime I'm downloading Trusty Tar (Ubuntu 14.04) to install on a specific XBMC partition with the unstable repo from Team XBMC just to avoid this mess in Debian..