[GoofyJeff]

Dave beat me to it... Tried clicking on the video but it's set to private. Grr...

[Ragnarok]

The video is currently set to private

What? I could never fat-finger something.



It's fixed, now.

[GoofyJeff]

Squee!! So very cool, and extremely user friendly from the looks of it. Can't wait to help y'all beta test!

[arithine]

SQUEEE ^_^

My body is ready!


Edit: well this is awkward, I did not see your squee before I posted mine.

[GoofyJeff]

Hahaha... Well the preview and forthcoming beta testing is definitely squee worthy.

[Dave the Minion]

Revised my post after the video was working. My thoughts....

[arithine]

How were you navigating forward and back on the slides and jumping forward and back through the videos? Left/right arrows? Up/Down arrows? PageUp/Down?

I would like to know this as well, I use a remote with only my most needed functions mapped to it (I had to work hard to condense it all down to the available key binds the remote can call), what do you mean by page down etc? Perhaps using big skip forward would be a better option to skip modules, left and right to go back and forth through slides and up to skip to the next module.

[Ragnarok]

For audio bumpers, your example of having a receiver upscale and therefor you override all audio formats makes sense. However, I'd prefer to have the actual audio format bumper shown even if I am using upscaling. Just like taking a DVD and upscalling it to 1080p isn't actually "Full HD". As mentioned before a module that can be set with various parameters and possible overrides would be a great step to achieve this. If you like I can explain this idea again or in better detail.

I think I see what you're saying. It's possible we could have settings for receiver capability, like this:

• [Boolean] Receiver is DTS:X Capable
  
• [Boolean] Receiver is Dolby Atmos Capable
  
• [Boolean] Receiver is Auro-3D Capable
  

You could enable or disable those Boolean (for the non-programmers, on/off) options to override all audio formats played. Also, the only format that it would truly affect is DTS:X, unfortunately. DTS:X is the only one that works that way that I know of. Dolby Atmos requires specific channels to be split and doesn't truly upscale from other Dolby formats. The same with Auro-3D. I think the clean way to do it is wait until we start to see videos with those formats embedded in them, and then figure out how Kodi reads that format and add it to the add-on. The way CinemaVision handles Dolby Atmos, DTS:X and Auro-3D right now is only temporary until the formats become more available to consumers, which I don't think is far off. It'll be an easy add when the time comes. What do you think?

Unless this is what you intend to use the Command feature for in which case more detail on how you set that up would be great. What you have in the video makes sense for what you have it doing but doesn't show how you set up those specific commands and the other options you could insert.

Right now, the Command module is intended to allow conditional looping in the sequence. We couldn't think of more functionality that was appropriate to add there, although I'm sure more will be added in the future. I'll make it a point to show the creation of a sequence from scratch in the next video, with the Command module included. Truthfully, I didn't even think about it at the time. Upon release, there will be a ton of how to videos for configuring the add-on.

For trailers, the option to use local library trailers (based on the xxx-trailer.xxx from the Kodi recognized filename) would be great. As well as support for other streaming sources which others are hoping for.

That's coming, but not in there just yet. We wanted to get the experience player working, and scraping trailers from iTunes working first. Our developer even wrote a scraper for 3D trailers from various websites - but we haven't started on 3D just yet.

The 'Working' dialogue comes up when Kodi is trying to access and then pre-cache the upcoming video. It will show up as often as Kodi needs to do this and won't matter if it's CV or CE or just playing a movie from a hard drive that's sleeping. I personally hate that it says 'Working'. The spinning wheel was enough to let me know what was happening without making it a big flashy show. Would love to eliminate that myself.

I completely agree. It doesn't show all the time, and it might be possible to hide it. We're not sure yet.

How were you navigating forward and back on the slides and jumping forward and back through the videos? Left/right arrows? Up/Down arrows? PageUp/Down?

Navigating forward and back through Trivia Slides is the left and right arrow keys. Navigating forward and back through modules is PgUp for forward, and PgDn for backward.

As a final note, I found the audio in your video to be very low. Had to turn the speakers way up to hear. Might just be me but other YouTube videos would scream at me at that level.

I'll make sure to turn up the recording volume on my mic before doing the next one!

I would like to know this as well, I use a remote with only my most needed functions mapped to it (I had to work hard to condense it all down to the available key binds the remote can call), what do you mean by page down etc? Perhaps using big skip forward would be a better option to skip modules, left and right to go back and forth through slides and up to skip to the next module.

I'll talk to the developer to get a better explanation of why he wanted to use PgUp/PgDn and get back to you all. I believe it had something to do with folks using remotes. That might also be something that we can put a setting in to allow you all to control the hotkeys, so you don't have to reprogram remotes.

[Dave the Minion]

As always, your detailed responses are appreciated. I'll keep putting down all my thoughts in a brainstorming method not being overly negative and critical.

The "Working" is from within Kodi itself, so that's on the full dev team to explain. I just find it very unattractive. Same goes for automatic notifications of 3D format change. I don't need them and it kills the illusion of seamless transitions. But it's all built into Kodi without the option to reduce or eliminate them at the moment. Maybe your dev has an idea about that?

PageUp/Down are the regular keys Kodi uses to move through items in a playlist by default. It's how CE moved forward and back through it's sequences. If that's how you are doing it in CV then you are on the right path!

What I meant for the audio bumpers I kind of explained before. Basically what I could see being very useful is an override module with the following strings;

Name: - self explanatory
Variable - set parameter to be met, example title/filename contains user defined tag, audio format is, channels are. Look at Smart Playlists as to what sort of parameters could be set.
Action - play video (quantity) from location) pre or user defined, even online stream source
Override - override or "skip" specific modules that will play by default

So for an example I could make a module to always play an IMAX specific bumper when I watch IMAX films.
Name - IMAX Bumper
Variable - title contains: IMAX
Action - play video (x1) from folder CinemaVision/IMAX
Override - none

Then I could place this custom module at any point in the sequence like all your other modules.

Example 2, I can make an audio format override because I want to show Atmos bumpers instead of the default DolbyTure HD bumper that would play based on Kodi reading the movie info for all DolbyTrueHD/Atmos films.
Name - Dolby Atmos
Variable - filename contains "Atmos"
Action - play video (x1) from folder CinemaVision/Audio/Dolby Atmos
Override - Audio Format Bumper

CV will see that I've put a tag in the filename (so far the only way to tell Kodi a film has an Atmos track) and it will cue the Atmos bumper instead of the DolbyTrue HD that would be pulled from the audio codec info in the movie info.

This sort of custom module would allow for all sorts of customizing based on all sorts of parameters. If I want to play a cartoon short before playing a G rated movie.
Name - Children's Catroon Short
Variable - MPAA rating is 'G'
Action - play video (x1) from folder C:/Cartoon Shorts
Override - none

Or I can play the Terminator specific THX trailer before any Terminator film
Name - Terminator THX Bumper
Variable - play video (CV/Audio/THX/YHX - Teminator.mp4
Action - title contains "Terminator"
Override - THX Bumper

A retrospective trailer showcasing the films of Steven Spielberg before playing a film of his
Name - Spielberg Bumper
Variable - video director is/contains "Steven Spielberg'
Action - play video (D:/Videos/Spielberg 1.mp4)
Override - Coming Attractions intro, Movie Trailers, Coming Attractions Outro, Audio Format Bumper, Countdown Bumper

And so on. So much flexibility and customization would be possible without a lot of extra work from the user if this could be implemented as I see it working in my head. Then one day when Kodi can read Atmos and dts-X separate of regular Dolby and dts those modules can be deleted. And I'm sure people could come up with hundreds of other examples they'd like to put into their sequences. The key it to be able to override a "default" sequence in the regular CV timeline and to pull from a user defined parameter similar to a smartplaylist. Heck even if you can get it to work based on a smartplaylist itself, so you can sort out all your Atmos and dts-X movies with a file name tag or being put into a specific folder or something and CV can be linked to the smartplaylist that gives you that sort option within Kodi.

Hope that all makes sense and doesn't burden down the programming process (too much). If it can be done I think it would push CV so far over the top as the successor to CE. Like going Burj Kalifa over the Empire State Building.

[Dave the Minion]

I also wanted to ask, does anyone havea good source for quality 3D trailers? HSBS prefered if not full MVC MKV/MP4 and not trailers recorded on a phone in a movie theater from a bad angle that you can see the 3D blur on like polute Steroscopy News.

[arithine]

What I meant for the audio bumpers I kind of explained before. Basically what I could see being very useful is an override module with the following strings;

Name: - self explanatory
Variable - set parameter to be met, example title/filename contains user defined tag, audio format is, channels are. Look at Smart Playlists as to what sort of parameters could be set.
Action - play video (quantity) from location) pre or user defined, even online stream source
Override - override or "skip" specific modules that will play by default

So much yes.

[Banditt]

I also wanted to ask, does anyone havea good source for quality 3D trailers? HSBS prefered if not full MVC MKV/MP4 and not trailers recorded on a phone in a movie theater from a bad angle that you can see the 3D blur on like polute Steroscopy News.

The only place I have found anything of good quality is youtube - Filters: < 4minutes, 3d, hd - not saying there are an insane number and that it isn't really time consuming, but that's the only place I have found that aren't off-center cams.

Idea: Maybe a thread somewhere with links to Youtube 3d trailers? Maybe like a curated list?

[Dave the Minion]

Another question.... how is CV handling 3D movies? Is there a different string that will lead to a different sequence overall? And where are you storing the 3D videos for audio bumpers, trailers intro etc.?

[Dave the Minion]

The only place I have found anything of good quality is youtube - Filters: < 4minutes, 3d, hd - not saying there are an insane number and that it isn't really time consuming, but that's the only place I have found that aren't off-center cams.

Idea: Maybe a thread somewhere with links to Youtube 3d trailers? Maybe like a curated list?

A nice curated list would be awesome but I don't have the time to do one myself. Won't mind contributing if/when I find stuff but personally I can't undertake such a project at this time.

I've used stereoscopynews.com to obtain most of the YouTube trailers I've gotten (plus YouTube Downloader to save them, just beware the sneaky way they try and install Yahoo garbage into your PC) but that site has so much utter gargabe linked as "3D trailers". No, a cell phone portrait video of half a blurry video segment is not a full HD 3D trailer.

When I rip my 3D Blu-ray's I also scan for any good trailers on them so I've got a number in full 3D MVC MKV format as well which, of course, only work with a few low powered media players like the Raspberry Pi2 at the moment. Now idea how to transcode these to HSBS while keeping the audio untouched either. I'd love to learn that and help add these to some hosting site if possible.

Silly that studios want us to go see the movies in 3D but won't show us the trailers in 3D.

[Skank]

About 3d

You can use 2d trailers too, but as soon as the 3d movies and if available 3d trailers start, you should see a 3d warning to put on your glasses