[arithine]

He may or may not have found the GitHub. It's not ready for beta yet, though, so things are missing and broken throughout.

I found it a while ago my self but never said anything, it never really worked for me, which makes sense, it was nice to mess around with the ui though.

[antisuck]

Great to see this in development, although I should say that Cinema Experience has been working mostly fine for my setup. Couple of small feature requests (apologies if any of this is already in the works, I did a cursory search of the thread but haven't read through it):

- Possible to set a reduced volume for trailers (just like with trivia music) and bump it back up to 0 for the main feature? I find that trailers are usually mixed louder than anything else in the chain, and I end up playing with the remote when I should be relaxing and eating popcorn.

- Can the trailer music be sourced from an existing smart playlist rather than from a dedicated folder of music files created specially for the purpose?

- Could the music fadeout at the end of the trailer segment be tweaked to be be smoother? Not sure if an internal Kodi routine is being used here or if it's some kind of timer loop with incremental adjustments, but I find Cinema Experience's fadeout to be rather slow (unnoticeable) at first then abrupt toward the end. And longer fade times seem to only delay the sudden fade at the end rather than stretching it out.

Thanks for reading!

[Levi59]

I wanted to download some bumper on your site but it's really a pain in the a$$ to download all of them one bye one... Is there any mega pack or at least checkbox to choose the files and download all in one go?

...

[Ragnarok]

Yes, but the ivipid intros are 25 fps and movie trailers are 24 fps so enabling "Adjust display refresh rate to match video" forces the refresh rate to switch when going from a 25 fps trailer intro to 24 fps trailers then to a 25 fps home theater intro and then the 24 fps feature presentation. It takes my projector a little bit to adjust to the new refresh rate, resulting in a black screen delay for longer than I would like (with audio but no video for a portion of the intro / trailer). The only thing I can think of is to play all intros and trailers at 60 hz, but then have CinemaVision force 24 hz for the feature film.

You'll likely either have to adjust the refresh rate of your iVipid intros using something like Handbrake, or change the Pause during refresh rate change setting so that it gives your projector time to switch. CinemaVision won't be forcing a refresh rate change, that could cause a lot of issues.

Just out of curiosity if i have 2 audio files say "THX Amazing life (lossless)" and "THX Amazing life" do they both go in the THX audio folder or do i have to create a separate THX (lossless) folder?

What I would do personally, is keep only the lossless file. The two bumpers you have are probably identical, but one has been re-encoded to use a lesser audio codec. You don't have to split them up at all, but I would keep the highest possible quality and get rid of identical lesser quality videos. Just a matter of personal preference. All of the Audio Format bumpers on the CinemaVision site have been re-encoded as MP4 but the audio was left intact to save space.

First I fixed myself a executive producer membership to get all content and placed it in there corresponding (auto created) folders.

Thanks for that! Folks who contribute are the ones helping us pay for the development of this add-on. It's appreciated, since we'd rather not come out of our personal pockets!

When selecting CinemavaVision (needed to restart a few times my OpenElec 5.95.4 system to properly open/launch addon settings)
It played the CV trivia intro and then the problems started.
The trivia did play but all the questions and answers were completly random, it didn't function as supposed to.

We actually identified a problem with the XML files in the slide packs that we fixed yesterday. I'm working on adding the XML and uploading all of the content (again) to the website.

For those of you who want to make that change manually, replace the content in every slides.xml file with:

Code:

<slides>
    <slide>
        <question format=".+_q\.jpg" />
        <clue1 format=".+_c1\.jpg" />
        <clue2 format=".+_c2\.jpg" />
        <clue3 format=".+_c3\.jpg" />
        <answer format=".+_a\.jpg" />
    </slide>
</slides>

After trivia ended Kodi volume was set to it's minimum (Why?) needed to set it back to 0dB
After everything was finished, it suddenly jumped back to main/home screen, didn't played the selected movie.

If you're launching any way other than queuing up a movie and then launching the add-on, hitting C, then selecting Play Sequence, I can't guarantee it will work right. Not sure about the volume issue, but I'll ask the developer.

I found it a while ago my self but never said anything, it never really worked for me, which makes sense, it was nice to mess around with the ui though.

What was your impression of the UI?

- Possible to set a reduced volume for trailers (just like with trivia music) and bump it back up to 0 for the main feature? I find that trailers are usually mixed louder than anything else in the chain, and I end up playing with the remote when I should be relaxing and eating popcorn.

That's not planned, but it's certainly possible. We're only doing that with the music volume during trivia right now.

- Can the trailer music be sourced from an existing smart playlist rather than from a dedicated folder of music files created specially for the purpose?

In the current build, no. There are plans to add support for playlists, TVTunes, and streaming sources.

- Could the music fadeout at the end of the trailer segment be tweaked to be be smoother? Not sure if an internal Kodi routine is being used here or if it's some kind of timer loop with incremental adjustments, but I find Cinema Experience's fadeout to be rather slow (unnoticeable) at first then abrupt toward the end. And longer fade times seem to only delay the sudden fade at the end rather than stretching it out.

There isn't a single line of code from Cinema Experience in CinemaVision. Everything was written from the ground up, and that does include the fades. In my testing, it was very smooth and gradual, not sudden like what you're describing happened with CE.

I wanted to download some bumper on your site but it's really a pain in the a$$ to download all of them one bye one... Is there any mega pack or at least checkbox to choose the files and download all in one go?

Man, I wish. That's a feature request we made to Invision a while ago, but it's not been added to the software yet. Hopefully that will be added soon.

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AN OPEN LETTER

So the cat's out of the bag. It's clear that some of you are trying out the add-on via the GitHub, which is fine. Please know that the state of the add-on currently on the GitHub is not production, it's barely alpha. Do not try to integrate it into your skin yourself and then launch it. I cannot guarantee that launching it any other way than the way shown in the preview video will work. If you want to launch a movie with CinemaVision, please queue a movie (or however many) up, then launch the CV add-on, hit C to bring up the context menu, and select Play Sequence there.

[MidnightWatcher]

Yes, but the ivipid intros are 25 fps and movie trailers are 24 fps so enabling "Adjust display refresh rate to match video" forces the refresh rate to switch when going from a 25 fps trailer intro to 24 fps trailers then to a 25 fps home theater intro and then the 24 fps feature presentation. It takes my projector a little bit to adjust to the new refresh rate, resulting in a black screen delay for longer than I would like (with audio but no video for a portion of the intro / trailer). The only thing I can think of is to play all intros and trailers at 60 hz, but then have CinemaVision force 24 hz for the feature film.

You'll likely either have to adjust the refresh rate of your iVipid intros using something like Handbrake, or change the Pause during refresh rate change setting so that it gives your projector time to switch. CinemaVision won't be forcing a refresh rate change, that could cause a lot of issues.

Using Handbrake to change the fps of ivipid intros is a good suggestion. I'll give that a try.

[arithine]

The UI great. very intuitive, leagues better then Cinema Experience.

[Soujirou Seta]

Not available im my repository, what i do?

Thanks

[Ragnarok]

Using Handbrake to change the fps of ivipid intros is a good suggestion. I'll give that a try.

Good luck!

The UI great. very intuitive, leagues better then Cinema Experience.

That's good to hear! Trying to pack a ridiculous feature set into something that's simple to use is not easy.

Not available im my repository, what i do?

In short, wait for it to be released and added to the repository. It's not even in beta just yet.

If the Addon could find trailer in other language, that'd be great.
BTW a full translation too please :3

Trivia are a good idea, maybe a "Did You know?" thing be great like "Did you know? Christopher Nolan broke an IMAX camera during the production of Batman The Dark Knight Rises."

I just realized I hadn't addressed this. There are a ton of possible sources, and even some languages that we can source from. For the initial release, it will all be English. We don't have the resources to translate all of the trivia and video bumper content. We're hoping the community will work together to create language packs.

[schumi2004]

@CinemaVision-Scott

Tried the method in the open letter part but seems it didn't worked out for me.
I know it's not even called alpha (github version) but just to let you know.
Also your slides.xml changes fixed my previous issue, thanks for that.

/edit:
I looked at the default sequence but can't determine were it should start the movie, it seems the sequence is missing a step. Is such possible?

[db10bo]

Scott

I noticed that only .mp4 files are being imported and most of my videos are .mkv. Would it be possible to get it to work with other file types?

Thanks in advance!

[japes]

He may or may not have found the GitHub. It's not ready for beta yet, though, so things are missing and broken throughout.

OK after playing around with this version I do have a few comments.

First off the UI is great. Nice work.

Second, is there a possibility of adding custom paths. For instance I have a separate folder on my systems with animated shorts that we currently source from for pre-show entertainment between the trivia and trailers. In CE we had to trick it into using theater intros pointed to this shorts directory. I like the ease of adding in this node without modding but the short movie node only points to the CV folder for short movies and I'd rather not have to move all my shorts over for this.

Third, currently in CE I have separate folder in the trivia folder with groupings and their own. Will it still work with separate folders with each having it's on slides xml so that when we watch kids movies only the pixar slides play (limited by the rating of the movie)...asking because when I tested it wouldn't play when I had trivia enabled.

Finally, I noticed on the trailer menu in the settings (Not the UI) there is an upper item for Ratings limit...does that mean you have it hard set so if I set it to PG even watching movies after kids go to bed we only get PG and below trailers...also below is the limit by rating and limit by genre toggles...what is the relationship here. In my test it played an PG-13 trailer for a G movie.


For the Record I don't expect responses for all these because I know you are working on this and it is still too early, but in case this is new or items you hadn't previously discussed I figured I post.

Everything seemed smooth and quick through the changes and the UI was really nice. I can't wait until this is released. I'll gladly test once it's ready...

[Ragnarok]

Tried the method in the open letter part but seems it didn't worked out for me.
I know it's not even called alpha (github version) but just to let you know.
Also your slides.xml changes fixed my previous issue, thanks for that.

/edit:
I looked at the default sequence but can't determine were it should start the movie, it seems the sequence is missing a step. Is such possible?

Glad the slides are working now! The Feature module is what plays the queued feature presenation movie(s). It should be there in the default sequence.

I noticed that only .mp4 files are being imported and most of my videos are .mkv. Would it be possible to get it to work with other file types?

It should be able to read any format Kodi can play - I'll talk to the developer. Good catch!

First off the UI is great. Nice work.

Thanks!

Second, is there a possibility of adding custom paths. For instance I have a separate folder on my systems with animated shorts that we currently source from for pre-show entertainment between the trivia and trailers. In CE we had to trick it into using theater intros pointed to this shorts directory. I like the ease of adding in this node without modding but the short movie node only points to the CV folder for short movies and I'd rather not have to move all my shorts over for this.

That's coming. You'll notice that Single File is now an option at the very bottom. Directory will be, too.

Third, currently in CE I have separate folder in the trivia folder with groupings and their own. Will it still work with separate folders with each having it's on slides xml so that when we watch kids movies only the pixar slides play (limited by the rating of the movie)...asking because when I tested it wouldn't play when I had trivia enabled.

It should still do that. I'll download the Pixar slides and test here in a minute. We are changing the way that it works as compared to CE, though. We're going to be implementing an XML that has specific metadata on a per-slide basis that will allow so much more functionality. That won't be there at launch though.

Finally, I noticed on the trailer menu in the settings (Not the UI) there is an upper item for Ratings limit...does that mean you have it hard set so if I set it to PG even watching movies after kids go to bed we only get PG and below trailers...also below is the limit by rating and limit by genre toggles...what is the relationship here. In my test it played an PG-13 trailer for a G movie.

The trailer rating limit does limit the trailers that will play regardless of the feature you're playing. You could set that to PG, and start an R movie, and it wouldn't play more than a PG trailer. The limit by rating and genre toggles should probably be renamed to "Match feature rating" and "Match feature genre". Those will determine what rating and genre the feature is, and play a trailer for a similar movie.

For the Record I don't expect responses for all these because I know you are working on this and it is still too early, but in case this is new or items you hadn't previously discussed I figured I post.

Everything seemed smooth and quick through the changes and the UI was really nice. I can't wait until this is released. I'll gladly test once it's ready...

I try to respond where I can. Thanks for the feedback, keep it coming!

[japes]

Thanks for the explanation on the trailer limits. I understand fully now.

Excellent news on the custom paths. Great work all around especially with the communication.

EDIT:
Trivia in folders isn't working for me. I get the background music but just black screen. If I take a group out of the folders and put in the trivial slide root it works fine though.

[Skank]

Concerning the slides, what i thought of yesterday.
It would be cool to autoshow the slides of the movie that is playing
But i'll guess that's undoable or you will need to have tons of slides no?

[Ragnarok]

Trivia in folders isn't working for me. I get the background music but just black screen. If I take a group out of the folders and put in the trivial slide root it works fine though.

That could be a few things. Can I talk you into posting a picture of your directory tree under the Trivia Slides directory? It could also be the slides.xml files, which we just a few days ago addressed. All of the old slides.xml files for the Q&A decks will need to be modified to have the following code:

Code:

<slides>
    <slide>
        <question format=".+_q\.jpg" />
        <clue1 format=".+_c1\.jpg" />
        <clue2 format=".+_c2\.jpg" />
        <clue3 format=".+_c3\.jpg" />
        <answer format=".+_a\.jpg" />
    </slide>
</slides>

Concerning the slides, what i thought of yesterday.
It would be cool to autoshow the slides of the movie that is playing
But i'll guess that's undoable or you will need to have tons of slides no?

That feature won't be there at launch, but metadata for every single slide is something that we have plans to do. That would allow you to filter your slideshow based on whatever metadata exists for the slides. You can add movie titles to the metadata and choose to only play slides with that title, or maybe even related films.