v17 Krypton and variables
#1
FAO Team Kodi members and seasoned skinners and anyone who might be able to help.

Hi,

I'm trying to update Madnox to make it ready for Krypton but I am finding severe problems with using the skin in Krypton and these problems do not seem to exist for the same skin with Jarvis. The issue in Jarvis was losing a VAR now and then that was connected mainly to textures and dialog window backgrounds but in Krpyton we are losing VARs for everything and anything, simple ones used in breadcrumbs, ones used to determine poster just anything is being lost i.e. the VAR one minute has a value but the next is empty!

This main problem I'm having seems to be connected to VARS, it seems that upon skin load and doing anything i.e. entering the Movies node I just start to lost VARs? They just suddenly lose their values and it can be any VARS but it seems to be affecting the skin across the board and if I do a reload then for a few mins or less the VARS seem to have values but just start losing them again.

A ticket was raised to try and establish the issue a while back, can be found here http://trac.kodi.tv/ticket/16634, but I don't see any update but now the issue is far worse when using Krypton!. it's not just the latest Beta, I've had the issue using the Alpha etc etc.

It seems it may / may not be connected to variables.xml, my current xml has 5723 lines in it and MikeSilvo has found that if we delete from around line 2700 down then the it seems to possibly resolve the problem or at least the problem isn't obvious from the start. But obviously I would prefer not to just butcher variables.xml in an attempt to possibly resolve this issue.

I'd really like to get Madnox to Krypton, mainly due to my skinning partner Schimi2k passing away on 2nd August, and he really wanted for us to make it available for Krypton but I'm just stuck with this main issue and it seems it is well beyond my limited skinning knowledge.

So. can anyone help or give suggestions, has anything changed in Krypton to cause this?

I know Madnox is at its basis old and crappy, we've been told that enough times, but generally it is always operational until it seems we try to go Krpyton? I'm sure some will say they don't have the problem and I could be doing something stupid, but it works with Jarvis and the initial ticket could be reproduced in confluence so something may have changed for Krytpon, Bobcrachett also mentioned a PR that might be connected to this issue but thought it might not make Krypton, apologies I can't find more info on the actual PR right now.

Thanks for you time and hopefully your help. You can check out the Krypton work in progress branch here, just select the krytpon branch.

Mike.
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#2
i don't think anything has changed in this regard.
i can't tell for sure, but i believe it's still the same bug that's causing issues.

the reason why it's more prominent now is that you're probably using more listitem properties in your skin than before.

the tickets you're refering too can be found here:
https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/8922
do read the comment from notspiff, he's clearly indicating this is a big bug in kodi.
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#3
Mike I Try to create AeonMQ6 for Krypton,and same isue have like you describe.
I start to remove view for Video,music Program and images...And Have big progress with isue.
Strange but try with this and see what happend with skin.
Remove in MyVideoNav.xml all numbers in
<views>51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72</views>
leave only deffault view number and includes for all view...
for some view I dont have nothung that owelaping video library default view, but menu of them is present.That mean visible are aveilable , condition for view dont working <visible>Control.IsVisible(54)</visible>.
I can explain well but try yourself.Here how looks both skin isue.

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#4
Thanks to you both for replying.

@ronie, how would i now be using more listitem props? Besides the krypton required changes nothing is different to the jarvis code? Thanks for the PR info, do you know if it will make it into krypton otherwise i can't see how the skin can be used with krypton?

@Angelinas, yes if we start removing things then we get improvements but obviously we shouldn't have to do that should we?
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#5
it doesn't have to be the skin itself, it could also be one of the scripts you depend upon that sets these properties.
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#6
I also have this problem in Aeon MQ5 mod for Krypton. VARs just disappear. I haven't seen any consistency in what triggers it. It's easy to see in this skin because the main menu becomes "brain dead" once VARs are wiped out. I put Krypton B1 in more of a production environment, and it is a show stopper for this skin.

scott s.
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#7
So this issue is not fixed in Beta 2 which I have to presume means it will not be fixed for Krypton? This means my skin won't be available for Krypton due to this bug that has been introduced in Krypton?

I have exactly the same setup in Jarvis and Krypton i.e. addons scripts etc. etc. and Jarvis works fine Krypton just doesn't!
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#8
@ronie I am not expert for this...but should this number in coloumn be same as number Id for views
Code:
<views>51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,77,78,80,83,84</views>

See ViewModes6.db which number is in your database....

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This maybe create isue with views and variable missing Smile
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#9
In some testing, Angelinas, I am coming to the conclusion that the problem is related to have a large number of viewmodes available for a container. $INFO[Container.Viewmode] does return the correct viewmode, but something is going wrong. I need to check out our idea of how it's stored in the db.

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#10
i'll see if we can get some test builds with the PR i referred to in my first reply.
would be nice to know if all of the issues mentioned here would be fixed by that pull-request.
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#11
@ronie, in my tests pull request don´t solve, troubles continue..
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#12
---scratch that---
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#13
Hello

I like to help to test this build. So i installed this build over my Kodi 17 setup. Kodi starts but the skin i use can't load.(Madnox) I looked into the addon directory and i noticed that the two skins for Kodi 17 (Estuary and Estouchy)
are missing only the old skin Confluence is installed. I thought Kodi 17 is shipped with the new skins only.

Or is this a special special build to test the props and not meant to use to test with a normal Kodi 17 setup?
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#14
meh, f'ed up. most likely that's kodi jarvis with that pr on top.

i'll try again..
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#15
(2016-09-19, 21:26)Angelinas Wrote: @ronie I am not expert for this...but should this number in coloumn be same as number Id for views
Code:
<views>51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,77,78,80,83,84</views>

See ViewModes6.db which number is in your database....

nope, see this post for an explanation:
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=...#pid785535
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