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Binnetie · 2017-01-03, 10:46

(2017-01-03, 00:49)movie78 Wrote:
(2017-01-02, 22:33)Binnetie Wrote: Whats the best way to play en full 3D bluray or full 2D bluray?

I have a 50GB 3D bluray iso from the Gravity with menu. If i try to play it from ZDMC i can play only the 2D movie. When i play it from Media Center, i only plays the main movie in 3D but in both situation i don't see a menu.

The ZDMC or Kodi doesn't support BD Menu unless you use VidOn XBMC, but doesn't work well..
Too much bugs

Thats wierd, I have tried the Bluray from War Dogs 2D with ZDMC and it haves a menu.

But it has a little stutter and after a few minutes the audio disappears.

Whats the difference in player between ZDMC and the Media Center player?

Skank · 2017-01-03, 11:18

(2017-01-03, 03:54)mirror88 Wrote:
(2017-01-02, 10:19)Skank Wrote: Tried 1.2.8 beta 5 too
Huge issues with dts-hd tracks, unwatchable!

Still same old bugs, nothing fixed!

Cracks in audio in main menu zdmc while scrolling, harmfull for speakers!
Watched movie "the bfg" with dts-hd track, as soon as movie starts, audio problems until thr end of the movie!
Get this asap right! Rating of. This player should go to B for the moment cause these are Main stuff that should work! Will report in beta forum

We've made some real progress. The cause of this problem is more complicated, maybe have a result in a week

Cool looking forward to !
Hope you can fix cause its a key feature zidoo should play

**hdmkv** · 2017-01-03, 17:43

(2017-01-03, 06:04)wesk05 Wrote:
(2017-01-03, 05:52)mirror88 Wrote: The 3D MVC MKV file in kodi sample list,maked by mkvmerge
Anyway, we'll keep checking about Makemkv
That file was just split using MKVToolNix/mkvmerge. The original MVC MKV would have been generated using makemkv.

Correct, that's exactly what I did w/that sample.

timstephens24 · 2017-01-04, 04:33

(2017-01-03, 05:41)wesk05 Wrote: @mirror88: how do you make a MVC MKV with mkvmerge? I wasn't even aware that mkvmerge supported MVC. As far I know, makemkv is truly lossless, it doesn't touch the video track.

It takes longer and command line:
eac3to -> MVCCombine -> MKVToolNix

First, use eac3to to demux the tracks from the Blu-Ray, then you need to use MVCCombine.exe to merge the left and right eye together ('MVCCombine.exe -l <left_eye.h264> -r <right_eye.h264> -o combineMVC.h264'). After that, use MKVToolNix to put everything in a MKV.

rockhard · 2017-01-04, 05:54

Some more bugs(version 1.2.7) coming your way Mirror88 Big Grin

1. I now have the dreaded 720p bug. Not sure what causes this. Could be because I turned on the daydream(screensaver) feature as another user noted .For this I followed the steps outlined in this post(http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=...pid2481589). Screensaver itself works just fine. Also it didn't started happening right away. About 2-3 days later. Everytime I open a movie I now have to confirm changed resolution

2.The unit now randomly goes into standby when watching a movie. There's no pattern to it. There's no fixed time for this and there are times it won't go into standby. This happens only when watching a movie and not when it's idle.

Also regarding resume of playback, I've found a pattern. If you've selected Repeat All or Off in native player settings and watch 10 movies all for less than a minute than it'll resume all of them. However if you watch a movie for say one hour than stop that movie and then watch another movie for long time (~30 minutes) and then come back to the previous movie the bookmark is gone and it starts from the beginning. So watching a movie for some time (~30 minutes) deletes all previous bookmarks except the one you're watching currently. Selecting Repeat one just stops resuming for all movies

Despite all these bugs I still have hopes for Zidoo. Primarily because they're actually responding to the feedback and trying to rectify them. Hopefully by version 1.2.9 they'll have all the major bugs rectified

DaMacFunkin · 2017-01-04, 09:38

(2017-01-04, 04:33)timstephens24 Wrote:
(2017-01-03, 05:41)wesk05 Wrote: @mirror88: how do you make a MVC MKV with mkvmerge? I wasn't even aware that mkvmerge supported MVC. As far I know, makemkv is truly lossless, it doesn't touch the video track.

It takes longer and command line:
eac3to -> MVCCombine -> MKVToolNix

First, use eac3to to demux the tracks from the Blu-Ray, then you need to use MVCCombine.exe to merge the left and right eye together ('MVCCombine.exe -l <left_eye.h264> -r <right_eye.h264> -o combineMVC.h264'). After that, use MKVToolNix to put everything in a MKV.

Is this not exactly what MakeMKV is doing on the fly?

nikos_a · 2017-01-04, 13:44

If we get a MVC mkv generated with MakeMKV and remux it in MKVToolnix, do we sort out the issue? At least until we have a permanent solution. Personally I have all my 3D content in MVC mkvs generated with MakeMKV and all of them play fine in Mede8er 600x3D, the same as they do with the ISOs I rip them of.

**hdmkv** · 2017-01-04, 18:31

Zidoo needs to look at, compare the header/metadata in MakeMKV and MKVMerge. Like @wesk05 and I've said, Intel NUC and RPi play both MVC's fine.

Here's the 'Ruin' sample, ripped w/MakeMKV, and put though MKVMerge (for grabbing a segment for the A/V wiki):

Code:

General

Unique ID                                : 249405606879041775141944290791753914434 (0xBBA1C5CCF4ED636EAFB18F85E09E1842)

Complete name                            : Y:\AV Test Clips\FPS & Codec Tests\3D MVC Test 1.mkv

Format                                   : Matroska

Format version                           : Version 4 / Version 2

File size                                : 244 MiB

Duration                                 : 1 min 0 s

Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable

Overall bit rate                         : 34.1 Mb/s

Encoded date                             : UTC 2015-12-21 22:24:11

Writing application                      : mkvmerge v8.6.1 ('Flying') 64bit

Writing library                          : libebml v1.3.3 + libmatroska v1.4.4



Video

ID                                       : 1

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : Stereo [email protected] / [email protected]

MultiView_Count                          : 2

Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes

Format settings, ReFrames                : 2 frames

Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC

Duration                                 : 1 min 0 s

Bit rate mode                            : Variable

Bit rate                                 : 33.6 Mb/s

Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate mode                          : Constant

Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.676

Stream size                              : 241 MiB (99%)

Language                                 : English

Default                                  : No

Forced                                   : No



Audio

ID                                       : 2

Format                                   : AC-3

Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3

Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)

Format settings, Endianness              : Big

Codec ID                                 : A_AC3

Duration                                 : 1 min 0 s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 448 kb/s

Channel(s)                               : 6 channels

Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Delay relative to video                  : 43 ms

Stream size                              : 3.21 MiB (1%)

Title                                    : Surround 5.1

Language                                 : English

Default                                  : Yes

Forced                                   : No

Here's the original MakeMKV full file:

Code:

General

Unique ID                                : 130223637954164697249194293695683786929 (0x61F8290EAEE1A86E21A0587A1F3878B1)

Complete name                            : C:\Users\hdmkv\Downloads\Ruin.mkv

Format                                   : Matroska

Format version                           : Version 2

File size                                : 1.16 GiB

Duration                                 : 8 min 11 s

Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable

Overall bit rate                         : 20.3 Mb/s

Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-01-04 16:31:09

Writing application                      : MakeMKV v1.10.3 win(x64-release)

Writing library                          : libmakemkv v1.10.3 (1.3.3/1.4.4) win(x64-release)

Original source medium                   : Blu-ray



Video

ID                                       : 1

ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)

Format                                   : AVC

Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile                           : [email protected]

Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes

Format settings, ReFrames                : 2 frames

Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=10

Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC

Duration                                 : 8 min 11 s

Bit rate mode                            : Variable

Bit rate                                 : 19.8 Mb/s

Width                                    : 1 920 pixels

Height                                   : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9

Frame rate mode                          : Constant

Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS

Color space                              : YUV

Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

Bit depth                                : 8 bits

Scan type                                : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.398

Stream size                              : 1.13 GiB (98%)

Language                                 : English

Default                                  : No

Forced                                   : No



Audio

ID                                       : 2

ID in the original source medium         : 4352 (0x1100)

Format                                   : AC-3

Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3

Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)

Format settings, Endianness              : Big

Codec ID                                 : A_AC3

Duration                                 : 8 min 11 s

Bit rate mode                            : Constant

Bit rate                                 : 448 kb/s

Channel(s)                               : 6 channels

Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE

Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf)

Bit depth                                : 16 bits

Compression mode                         : Lossy

Stream size                              : 26.2 MiB (2%)

Title                                    : Surround 5.1

Language                                 : English

Default                                  : Yes

Forced                                   : No

**mirror88** · 2017-01-05, 07:05

(2017-01-04, 18:31)hdmkv Wrote: Zidoo needs to look at, compare the header/metadata in MakeMKV and MKVMerge. Like @wesk05 and I've said, Intel NUC and RPi play both MVC's fine.

Here's the 'Ruin' sample, ripped w/MakeMKV, and put though MKVMerge (for grabbing a segment for the A/V wiki):

Code:
General Unique ID : 249405606879041775141944290791753914434 (0xBBA1C5CCF4ED636EAFB18F85E09E1842) Complete name : Y:\AV Test Clips\FPS & Codec Tests\3D MVC Test 1.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 File size : 244 MiB Duration : 1 min 0 s Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 34.1 Mb/s Encoded date : UTC 2015-12-21 22:24:11 Writing application : mkvmerge v8.6.1 ('Flying') 64bit Writing library : libebml v1.3.3 + libmatroska v1.4.4 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : Stereo [email protected] / [email protected] MultiView_Count : 2 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 1 min 0 s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 33.6 Mb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.676 Stream size : 241 MiB (99%) Language : English Default : No Forced : No Audio ID : 2 Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Mode extension : CM (complete main) Format settings, Endianness : Big Codec ID : A_AC3 Duration : 1 min 0 s Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 448 kb/s Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf) Bit depth : 16 bits Compression mode : Lossy Delay relative to video : 43 ms Stream size : 3.21 MiB (1%) Title : Surround 5.1 Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No

Here's the original MakeMKV full file:

Code:
General Unique ID : 130223637954164697249194293695683786929 (0x61F8290EAEE1A86E21A0587A1F3878B1) Complete name : C:\Users\hdmkv\Downloads\Ruin.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 2 File size : 1.16 GiB Duration : 8 min 11 s Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 20.3 Mb/s Encoded date : UTC 2017-01-04 16:31:09 Writing application : MakeMKV v1.10.3 win(x64-release) Writing library : libmakemkv v1.10.3 (1.3.3/1.4.4) win(x64-release) Original source medium : Blu-ray Video ID : 1 ID in the original source medium : 4113 (0x1011) Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : [email protected] Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=10 Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 8 min 11 s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 19.8 Mb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.398 Stream size : 1.13 GiB (98%) Language : English Default : No Forced : No Audio ID : 2 ID in the original source medium : 4352 (0x1100) Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Mode extension : CM (complete main) Format settings, Endianness : Big Codec ID : A_AC3 Duration : 8 min 11 s Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 448 kb/s Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf) Bit depth : 16 bits Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 26.2 MiB (2%) Title : Surround 5.1 Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No

Thanks,We are checking it

**mirror88** · 2017-01-05, 07:07

(2017-01-04, 05:54)rockhard Wrote: Some more bugs(version 1.2.7) coming your way Mirror88

1. I now have the dreaded 720p bug. Not sure what causes this. Could be because I turned on the daydream(screensaver) feature as another user noted .For this I followed the steps outlined in this post(http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=...pid2481589). Screensaver itself works just fine. Also it didn't started happening right away. About 2-3 days later. Everytime I open a movie I now have to confirm changed resolution

2.The unit now randomly goes into standby when watching a movie. There's no pattern to it. There's no fixed time for this and there are times it won't go into standby. This happens only when watching a movie and not when it's idle.

Also regarding resume of playback, I've found a pattern. If you've selected Repeat All or Off in native player settings and watch 10 movies all for less than a minute than it'll resume all of them. However if you watch a movie for say one hour than stop that movie and then watch another movie for long time (~30 minutes) and then come back to the previous movie the bookmark is gone and it starts from the beginning. So watching a movie for some time (~30 minutes) deletes all previous bookmarks except the one you're watching currently. Selecting Repeat one just stops resuming for all movies

Despite all these bugs I still have hopes for Zidoo. Primarily because they're actually responding to the feedback and trying to rectify them. Hopefully by version 1.2.9 they'll have all the major bugs rectified

Already sloved the 720p bug,and checking the bookmark issue

sloth · 2017-01-05, 12:17

I must admit that my initial enthusiasm for this device is fading. I really hope the new firmware will solve the issues and arrives soon. I am seriously considering returning it as the audio dropouts (also during music listening from an SATA-attached SSD) are a no-go for me. The new NVidia Shield looks interesting as an alternative.

gadgetman67 · 2017-01-05, 13:16

I am confident the audio dropouts will be sorted so prepared to wait it out a little longer. After installing the beta sorted my network share and external player pop up windows, made my device completely unusable is now sorted. The next firmware is the deciding factor problem is not long before i can send back and we were promised before xmas new firmware then changed before end of year. Time is running out for me.

nikos_a · 2017-01-05, 16:21

Anyone with the beta or mirror88 that knows about the "Unknown error" message when you go back (and out) of a Samba share, and then trying to get back in through the explorer, can you please check if this issue is sorted? It is VERY annoying...

**hdmkv** · (This post was last modified: 2017-01-05, 16:32 by hdmkv.)

(2017-01-05, 16:21)nikos_a Wrote: Anyone with the beta or mirror88 that knows about the "Unknown error" message when you go back (and out) of a Samba share, and then trying to get back in through the explorer, can you please check if this issue is sorted? It is VERY annoying...

This is via ZDMC? If so, it happens on occasion, especially w/Kodi on Android. Here's a fix.

The audio dropouts several of you have reported, is it just DTS-MA? 2D or 3D? Which type of container (MKV or ISO)?

nikos_a · (This post was last modified: 2017-01-05, 17:20 by nikos_a.)

No, not via ZDMC. Through the Zidoo explorer. I go to a Samba share, I play a file, I press back so many times to go out of the share (say to main screen), then I try to get back in to the same share and I can't. Throws the "Unknown error" message. It has been reported by others too. The only way to get this back to work is to restart the x9s.

Here's another report of the issue (I suppose with 1.2.6 judging from the post date)

http://forums.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid...pid2458009