2017-05-12, 19:22
I've had that problem the whole time I've had the Shield. It's different colorspaces don't have accurate colors.
(2017-05-12, 19:22)timstephens24 Wrote: I've had that problem the whole time I've had the Shield. It's different colorspaces don't have accurate colors.There isn't anything wrong with what the Shield outputs. The output matches exactly to the input in YCbCr mode. In RGB mode there are some rounding errors, but nothing that can be visually perceived (by normal people).
(2017-05-12, 19:52)timstephens24 Wrote: RGB is noticeably different than any of the other outputs.RGB Full will look different because 16-235 is scaled and remapped to 0-255. You will also have to manually adjust the black level settings on your TV. Shield doesn't send quantization bits in AVI Infoframe (this is applicable to other Android devices also). If you compare RGB Limited (with your TV set to appropriate black level) to YCbCr, you are unlikely to notice any difference. If you are seeing, then it is unrelated to Shield's output.
(2017-05-12, 23:23)timstephens24 Wrote: Ok I just checked. 1080p w/ YCbCr 444 and RGB 8-bit BT.709 look visually the same. 4K w/ YCbCr 420 10-bit BT.2020 looks washed out and the colors are off. Guess the issue is BT.709 and BT.2020 color differences and not specifically the Shield?
(2017-05-12, 23:23)timstephens24 Wrote: 4K w/ YCbCr 420 10-bit BT.2020 looks washed out and the colors are off. Guess the issue is BT.709 and BT.2020 color differences and not specifically the Shield?If this is based on the home screen or playing BT.709 video, then yes. Shield doesn't really do a BT.709 to BT.2020 color space conversion. It simply sends the 8-bit value as 10-bit. ITU BT.2087-0 is the recommendation for this color space conversion.
(2017-05-12, 19:36)wesk05 Wrote:(2017-05-12, 19:22)timstephens24 Wrote: I've had that problem the whole time I've had the Shield. It's different colorspaces don't have accurate colors.There isn't anything wrong with what the Shield outputs. The output matches exactly to the input in YCbCr mode. In RGB mode there are some rounding errors, but nothing that can be visually perceived (by normal people).
(2017-05-12, 23:23)timstephens24 Wrote: Ok I just checked. 1080p w/ YCbCr 444 and RGB 8-bit BT.709 look visually the same. 4K w/ YCbCr 420 10-bit BT.2020 looks washed out and the colors are off. Guess the issue is BT.709 and BT.2020 color differences and not specifically the Shield?
(2017-05-13, 00:08)ggp759 Wrote: Just played with the color spaces some more. 4K BT 2020 is to be used only for HDR content nothing else. 4K BT 709 and all the combinations of YCbCr gives a weird look in kodi/spmc for 1080p stuff (skin tones especially).The thing is that for 4k netflix or amazon content that are not in HDR (ie Better Call Saul) i have to change the color space yet again to BT 709 and 4k. i guess there is no way for nvidia to make the shield choose the correct color space according to source.Hmm... You shouldn't see a difference between 1080p BT.709 and 4K BT.709.
(2017-05-13, 00:11)wesk05 Wrote:(2017-05-13, 00:08)ggp759 Wrote: Just played with the color spaces some more. 4K BT 2020 is to be used only for HDR content nothing else. 4K BT 709 and all the combinations of YCbCr gives a weird look in kodi/spmc for 1080p stuff (skin tones especially).The thing is that for 4k netflix or amazon content that are not in HDR (ie Better Call Saul) i have to change the color space yet again to BT 709 and 4k. i guess there is no way for nvidia to make the shield choose the correct color space according to source.Hmm... You shouldn't see a difference between 1080p BT.709 and 4K BT.709.
This is what I suggested here: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic...9/#5145959
(2017-05-17, 20:59)gacama Wrote: I'm trying to set back button in my harmony ir remote, but I can't someone can explain me how to? For dummies please
Thanks in advance
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(2017-05-17, 21:28)Tinwarble Wrote:(2017-05-17, 20:59)gacama Wrote: I'm trying to set back button in my harmony ir remote, but I can't someone can explain me how to? For dummies please
Thanks in advance
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Set it to do what? You need to be more explicit about what you are trying to do.
(2017-05-17, 22:14)hoppel118 Wrote: How old is your harmony profile? If I remember right Logitech made some changes for the back button one or two months ago. Maybe you can try to delete and setup again the shield device at myharmony.
I am not a harmony user anymore. Since I have the shield, I use the original shield remote only.
Greetings Hoppel