(2012-10-31, 15:52)bladesuk1 Wrote: (2012-10-24, 13:09)vicbitter Wrote: (2012-10-24, 11:35)edhen Wrote: in case you haven't noticed, that has already been pursued by others in regards to this thread
And the devs response
to throw my oar in here (as the originator of the eden hack that led to all of this) the dev's response was to put this shared library together in the frodo codebase.
when i put the original hack together (fwiw, i'm also a father of two kids, the eldest being three and the youngest just had her first birthday a couple of weeks ago) i wanted a headless server mode. vajonam rebased my original branch 542 into something that the devs could use, and that's the patch you see in post #2 in this thread. the end result was that a developer on the project thought he should either put up or shut up and let the hack through. as the hack was very dirty, and his solution was by far the most elegant method of solving the problem, that's what ultimately happened, and my contribution became nothing more than a footnote. you can see the trail of comments in the patch itself, if you're curious.
so, to be honest, i think it's a little unfair to criticise the developers on this one. they've basically done something to make our lives easier in the long term, and when frodo is released the library side of things will be incredibly helpful in a wide array of situations - including our desire for a headless server. the downside - for now - is that you'll have to be using the frodo branch, and that's breaking a lot of code in its current iteration because it's in active development. when that stabilises, we'll be in a far better position.
in the meanwhile, there's nothing to stop you pulling down and compiling the old version of the eden headless server code from vajonam's branch, which does the job well enough. alternatively, switch to using the nightlies, and use this library. downside is that the external tools will likely break (sickbeard et al) - and that's the main reason i'm not currently using it myself, and will be waiting for frodo's actual release.
My God you guys just keep going on and on, No where did i actually criticize? I GAVE AN OPINION! Or atleast a PERSPECTIVE... Also you are a full time (24/7) "SINGLE" father? if not, that statement will never compare... you need too really read my previous comments because you have blindly assumed way too much... "eden headless server code from vajonam's branch" has already been mentioned, "alternatively, switch to using the nightlies, and use this library" has already been mentioned... and lets face it, the library approach wasn't a real big one, it was a just quick fix and didn't really require much. To be fair, every client/server software out there (tvheadend, utorrent, deluge, and so on) is tailored made too be that off what it is. here we pretty much took a whole application and turned it into a dynamic library containing many methods and classes that wouldn't even relate, specially GUI actions.
I really liked @Robotica's method, this would allow 3rd party dev's to quickly adapt there applications which is tailored to there application needs at minimal requirements. It would also allow for more versatile applications and hopefully a dominant server type application with continuous support / maintenance.
Now I hope this didn't sound overly aggressive, but im kind off getting tired off defending my statements, which even other people now have an understanding off...