Why not WMC as backend?
(2013-03-25, 06:26)Riztnack Wrote: Everything went smooth until I got to LIVE TV in xbmc and tried to watch anything. Error is "Windows Media Center PVR Recording Stream exited early"

Are you using a ceton card or a HDHR Prime box?

Looks Like I can record from XBMC but I am unable to watch while recording. stop the recording then I can watch it. Playback is a bit jerky though.

Well I like the "smooth" part..

But LiveTV is not working (the problem playing an active recording is almost assuredly the same root cause). To answer your question, I don't have either tuner, I just have sd cable and hi-def OTA tuners, my friends the same. Before I have you start sending me log files, could you make me a small clip of a wtv recording (50mb or so) made with either tuner and get it to me, like with skydive? I'll PM you my email.

What about other stuff:
1. Did the EPG data load?
2. If it transfer the scheduled recordings correctly into xbmc?
3. Did it correctly find all the channels and discover the tuner setup correctly (number and type of tuner)?
4. Can you schedule/cancel recordings with xbmc?
5. Do your previously recorded wtv shows show up in wmc with meta data intact? Do they play okay in xbmc?

thanks again for being a guinea pig. Sorry we're off to a rocky start. Look for my email in a PM.

For those of you who want to help, PM me your email address to get access. Most of you seem to have similar systems to Riztnack, though so you may want to wait until I work out his live tv issue first, but its up to you.
Windows Media Center PVR addon (pvr.wmc) and server backend (ServerWMC)
http://bit.ly/serverwmc
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Why not WMC as backend? - by krustyreturns - 2012-09-04, 17:56
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by margro - 2012-09-04, 18:19
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by margro - 2012-09-04, 23:02
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by jajoflo - 2012-09-05, 02:30
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Livin - 2012-09-06, 00:17
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by debennett2 - 2013-01-23, 21:22
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Livin - 2012-09-06, 02:53
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by hyde01 - 2013-10-29, 05:40
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Riztnack - 2013-10-29, 16:06
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by joebrady - 2012-09-06, 05:04
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Jamesy - 2012-09-18, 15:29
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Jamesy - 2012-09-23, 17:00
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by kreeturez - 2012-09-24, 00:14
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Jamesy - 2012-09-24, 00:28
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bluray - 2012-09-24, 01:14
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Haudrauf - 2012-09-26, 15:20
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bluray - 2012-09-26, 16:20
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Haudrauf - 2012-09-26, 17:06
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Haudrauf - 2012-09-27, 10:26
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2012-09-27, 12:45
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by kristjin - 2012-10-01, 04:37
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Livin - 2012-10-02, 21:12
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by kristjin - 2012-10-02, 23:35
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by DJShadow - 2012-10-12, 19:33
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by ebucha - 2012-10-17, 21:07
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by benoire - 2012-10-22, 08:30
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Crimzin - 2012-10-24, 23:16
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by T800 - 2012-10-25, 08:04
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by svet-am - 2012-10-29, 15:36
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Malosar - 2012-10-17, 21:31
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2012-10-17, 21:40
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by sub3 - 2012-10-22, 17:39
Re: RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-01-24, 17:44
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bernr - 2013-01-31, 16:10
Re: RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-02-01, 20:42
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-02-02, 01:03
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-02-02, 20:28
Re: RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-02-02, 21:36
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-03, 20:44
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-02-03, 23:23
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Hijo del sol - 2013-02-04, 04:21
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-04, 10:21
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-04, 18:11
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by emveepee - 2013-02-05, 04:50
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bmn001 - 2013-02-05, 20:20
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-06, 11:57
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by royfra - 2013-02-08, 20:20
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by 2twisty - 2013-02-06, 17:50
Re: RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-02-06, 18:57
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-02-07, 04:17
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by 2twisty - 2013-02-06, 21:58
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-08, 15:54
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-02-08, 17:40
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by staknhalo - 2013-02-09, 16:28
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-02-10, 11:52
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by papreston - 2013-02-10, 15:54
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Malosar - 2013-02-10, 16:04
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by royfra - 2013-02-10, 16:49
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by dbezerra - 2013-02-11, 06:04
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by royfra - 2013-02-11, 13:29
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by dbezerra - 2013-02-12, 08:08
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-12, 14:42
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-02-12, 10:06
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by royfra - 2013-02-12, 13:13
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by thewarm - 2013-02-14, 14:15
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bernr - 2013-02-15, 05:12
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by thewarm - 2013-02-15, 05:13
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by thewarm - 2013-02-14, 20:05
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Scott R - 2013-02-16, 17:27
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Scott R - 2013-02-16, 21:34
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Livin - 2013-02-20, 00:35
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Scott R - 2013-02-20, 03:34
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-20, 15:11
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-02-20, 20:38
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-21, 15:11
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by staknhalo - 2013-03-03, 05:55
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by wsume99 - 2013-03-12, 20:51
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by wsume99 - 2013-03-12, 21:40
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by staknhalo - 2013-03-03, 06:24
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by staknhalo - 2013-03-03, 10:11
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by LSU Jonno - 2013-03-04, 15:58
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Powerhouse - 2013-03-05, 08:33
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by mrkevbo - 2013-03-10, 23:44
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Scott R - 2013-03-11, 04:01
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Tyzing - 2013-03-11, 21:01
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-03-12, 10:06
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by staknhalo - 2013-03-12, 13:36
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-03-13, 01:33
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-03-13, 12:54
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-13, 03:30
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-13, 16:54
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-13, 19:37
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by staknhalo - 2013-03-15, 01:52
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-03-13, 12:10
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-03-13, 18:22
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-03-13, 21:20
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-13, 21:51
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by LSU Jonno - 2013-03-14, 00:42
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-14, 03:33
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Dark_Slayer - 2013-09-22, 07:52
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by jeffj9930 - 2013-09-22, 15:25
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Angelscry - 2013-09-22, 15:29
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Dark_Slayer - 2013-09-22, 21:27
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by MeMeMe - 2013-09-22, 18:40
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-18, 19:26
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by smacrae - 2013-03-19, 00:52
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-19, 16:56
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by staknhalo - 2013-03-22, 18:15
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-19, 01:02
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by ConfusedTA - 2013-03-19, 14:47
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Dennis5056 - 2013-03-21, 10:33
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by jdmagoo - 2013-03-22, 06:24
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by d3maxt - 2013-03-22, 17:43
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by stven - 2013-03-23, 09:06
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by smacrae - 2013-03-23, 10:09
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by stven - 2013-03-23, 18:01
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by username145 - 2013-03-24, 00:52
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by smacrae - 2013-03-24, 23:38
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Riztnack - 2013-03-25, 06:26
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by krustyreturns - 2013-03-25, 16:32
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by smacrae - 2013-03-25, 09:34
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-03-25, 11:05
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by VladTepz - 2013-03-25, 12:05
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Riztnack - 2013-03-25, 19:14
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-26, 17:12
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by whiteyw80 - 2013-03-28, 05:29
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-29, 16:25
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-03-29, 19:43
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Riztnack - 2013-03-29, 19:50
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-03-29, 22:48
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-03-30, 00:04
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-03-30, 21:59
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by moniker - 2013-03-31, 01:48
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-03-31, 03:20
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-04-02, 21:54
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by TjaLfE - 2013-04-04, 10:13
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by justinobwi - 2013-04-04, 18:58
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Slappa - 2013-04-09, 13:09
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by scott967 - 2013-04-10, 05:59
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by rykr - 2013-04-15, 16:10
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by MyClosedEyes - 2013-04-17, 05:43
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by tcs2tx - 2013-04-19, 00:48
Why not WMC as backend? - by TjaLfE - 2013-04-24, 13:34
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-04-24, 20:24
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by TjaLfE - 2013-04-25, 08:38
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by mikey976 - 2013-04-29, 21:35
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Neebski - 2013-04-30, 18:28
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by whiteyw80 - 2013-05-06, 03:45
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Cab121 - 2013-05-06, 07:28
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by TjaLfE - 2013-05-06, 13:12
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by LSU Jonno - 2013-05-08, 16:08
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-05-08, 16:30
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-08, 19:30
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-06, 19:26
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by micster - 2013-05-06, 21:25
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by TjaLfE - 2013-05-07, 12:37
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Dennis5056 - 2013-05-07, 15:34
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-07, 16:35
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Evoxer - 2013-05-07, 22:20
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by LSU Jonno - 2013-05-09, 19:11
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by scott967 - 2013-05-08, 23:15
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-08, 23:47
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-10, 00:06
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by LSU Jonno - 2013-05-14, 02:56
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-21, 22:50
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by runee - 2013-05-12, 20:03
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by runee - 2013-05-13, 08:20
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by rap777 - 2013-05-13, 10:03
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Bladed - 2013-05-21, 01:50
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Mankix - 2013-05-22, 17:58
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-22, 20:11
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Powerhouse - 2013-05-22, 23:26
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by jeffj9930 - 2013-05-23, 00:18
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-23, 02:31
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-23, 04:59
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-23, 09:01
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by w84no1 - 2013-05-23, 17:56
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-23, 19:36
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by locoguano - 2013-05-24, 04:54
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-28, 17:31
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-05-28, 19:01
Why not WMC as backend? - by TjaLfE - 2013-05-28, 17:34
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-05-28, 22:53
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-28, 23:24
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-05-28, 23:43
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-28, 23:54
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-05-29, 00:04
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Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by Cab121 - 2013-05-29, 01:43
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-05-29, 01:53
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by Cab121 - 2013-05-29, 02:13
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-29, 04:33
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-29, 07:03
Re: RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Cab121 - 2013-05-30, 03:18
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-30, 22:56
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-06-02, 23:53
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-06-03, 00:47
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-06-03, 04:17
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-06-03, 07:13
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-06-03, 16:37
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-06-04, 07:35
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-06-04, 16:11
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by TjaLfE - 2013-06-04, 08:10
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by w84no1 - 2013-06-04, 15:36
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by jdmagoo - 2013-06-04, 23:03
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-06-06, 17:25
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by rushingjs - 2013-06-06, 21:13
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by ppilot - 2013-06-06, 21:51
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-06-06, 21:54
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by Livin - 2013-06-06, 22:03
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-06-06, 22:04
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-06-07, 04:15
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-06-07, 04:22
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-06-07, 04:44
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-06-07, 08:26
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by rykr - 2013-06-13, 21:52
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-06-07, 06:53
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-06-08, 01:26
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-06-08, 22:08
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-06-09, 05:41
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by grimevil - 2013-06-14, 10:26
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by carmeli - 2013-06-16, 15:33
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-06-16, 16:04
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-06-16, 17:55
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by rtwolfe - 2013-06-17, 03:13
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by rushingjs - 2013-06-17, 17:48
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-06-17, 18:06
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-06-17, 18:30
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by scott967 - 2013-06-18, 23:23
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by skcubrats - 2013-06-19, 19:23
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-06-24, 17:28
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by mikey976 - 2013-07-06, 17:31
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Evoxer - 2013-07-15, 00:51
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by TRiddle - 2013-07-15, 17:10
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by avus m3 - 2013-07-17, 02:45
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-07-17, 02:47
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by hyde01 - 2013-07-17, 20:32
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-07-17, 21:48
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Dark_Slayer - 2013-07-23, 19:44
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by hyde01 - 2013-07-23, 19:57
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by scott967 - 2013-07-23, 22:58
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by hyde01 - 2013-07-23, 23:28
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by MeMeMe - 2013-07-24, 05:07
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by hyde01 - 2013-07-24, 06:19
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by LSU Jonno - 2013-07-24, 23:15
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by hyde01 - 2013-07-17, 22:11
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by totalhavoc - 2013-07-17, 23:04
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by hyde01 - 2013-07-17, 23:10
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by hyde01 - 2013-07-25, 02:11
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by LSU Jonno - 2013-07-26, 03:15
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by TRiddle - 2013-07-25, 14:55
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Why not WMC as backend? - by TjaLfE - 2013-07-26, 21:08
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by jeffj9930 - 2013-07-28, 20:38
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by mikey976 - 2013-08-05, 18:27
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by MeMeMe - 2013-08-06, 06:49
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by MeMeMe - 2013-08-06, 21:02
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by MeMeMe - 2013-08-06, 22:46
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-08-06, 09:16
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by w84no1 - 2013-08-06, 15:32
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by w84no1 - 2013-08-06, 22:55
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by jeffj9930 - 2013-08-12, 21:18
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by opdenkamp - 2013-08-13, 20:47
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-08-13, 21:57
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-08-14, 08:33
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