Why not WMC as backend?
Just let us know Krusty. I have a ceton infinitv just dying to try this out. I figured the encrypted channels won't work, but I just want a better front end then WMC. I am patiently waiting for any type of release to test out.

(2013-04-09, 17:26)krustyreturns Wrote:
(2013-04-09, 07:56)tekno Wrote: I was gifted an ATI Digital Cable tuner that is WMC only. There are no linux drivers for it and I have windows only on my laptop for those few times I need it.

I would be interested in knowing if this long thread here means that there is hope of setting up a WMC TV PVR back-end and using it with XBMC.

I admit I did not read all of this and the few pages I read seemed to show progress.

Well, the pvr features (setting up recordings, viewing recordings, viewing guide data is working fine for all the testers). However about a third of the people testing are having problems with live tv, that I have yet to work through (although some issues have been solved).

The other problem with live tv, is that I don't have a solution for channels that broadcast in h264. If anyone can help with this that would help a lot, otherwise I will look for solutions to this once I have the rest of the software stable. And I will never have a solution for xbmc viewing encrypted broadcasts (although you can use this backed to record them, and eventually I may have a way to launch wmc to view these).

But you know this isn't my job, but I spend time on it whenever I can and I am committed to releasing it. So yeah, there is a lot of hope I'd say.

Oh, it is also not installing in win8. This is fixable, but I am going to have to break down and get win8 to resolve this (I can't decide what computer to install it on...)
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Why not WMC as backend? - by krustyreturns - 2012-09-04, 17:56
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by margro - 2012-09-04, 18:19
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by margro - 2012-09-04, 23:02
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by jajoflo - 2012-09-05, 02:30
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Livin - 2012-09-06, 00:17
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by debennett2 - 2013-01-23, 21:22
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Livin - 2012-09-06, 02:53
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by hyde01 - 2013-10-29, 05:40
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Riztnack - 2013-10-29, 16:06
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by joebrady - 2012-09-06, 05:04
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Jamesy - 2012-09-18, 15:29
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Jamesy - 2012-09-23, 17:00
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by kreeturez - 2012-09-24, 00:14
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Jamesy - 2012-09-24, 00:28
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bluray - 2012-09-24, 01:14
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Haudrauf - 2012-09-26, 15:20
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bluray - 2012-09-26, 16:20
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Haudrauf - 2012-09-26, 17:06
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Haudrauf - 2012-09-27, 10:26
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2012-09-27, 12:45
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by kristjin - 2012-10-01, 04:37
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Livin - 2012-10-02, 21:12
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by kristjin - 2012-10-02, 23:35
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by DJShadow - 2012-10-12, 19:33
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by ebucha - 2012-10-17, 21:07
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by benoire - 2012-10-22, 08:30
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Crimzin - 2012-10-24, 23:16
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by T800 - 2012-10-25, 08:04
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by svet-am - 2012-10-29, 15:36
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Malosar - 2012-10-17, 21:31
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2012-10-17, 21:40
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by sub3 - 2012-10-22, 17:39
Re: RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-01-24, 17:44
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bernr - 2013-01-31, 16:10
Re: RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-02-01, 20:42
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-02-02, 01:03
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-02-02, 20:28
Re: RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-02-02, 21:36
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-03, 20:44
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-02-03, 23:23
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Hijo del sol - 2013-02-04, 04:21
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-04, 10:21
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-04, 18:11
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by emveepee - 2013-02-05, 04:50
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bmn001 - 2013-02-05, 20:20
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-06, 11:57
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by royfra - 2013-02-08, 20:20
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by 2twisty - 2013-02-06, 17:50
Re: RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-02-06, 18:57
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-02-07, 04:17
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by 2twisty - 2013-02-06, 21:58
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-08, 15:54
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-02-08, 17:40
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by staknhalo - 2013-02-09, 16:28
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-02-10, 11:52
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by papreston - 2013-02-10, 15:54
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Malosar - 2013-02-10, 16:04
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by royfra - 2013-02-10, 16:49
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by dbezerra - 2013-02-11, 06:04
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by royfra - 2013-02-11, 13:29
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by dbezerra - 2013-02-12, 08:08
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-12, 14:42
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-02-12, 10:06
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by royfra - 2013-02-12, 13:13
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by thewarm - 2013-02-14, 14:15
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bernr - 2013-02-15, 05:12
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by thewarm - 2013-02-15, 05:13
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by thewarm - 2013-02-14, 20:05
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Scott R - 2013-02-16, 17:27
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Scott R - 2013-02-16, 21:34
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Livin - 2013-02-20, 00:35
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Scott R - 2013-02-20, 03:34
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-20, 15:11
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-02-20, 20:38
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by FIBO - 2013-02-21, 15:11
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by staknhalo - 2013-03-03, 05:55
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by wsume99 - 2013-03-12, 20:51
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by wsume99 - 2013-03-12, 21:40
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by staknhalo - 2013-03-03, 06:24
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by staknhalo - 2013-03-03, 10:11
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by LSU Jonno - 2013-03-04, 15:58
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Powerhouse - 2013-03-05, 08:33
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Scott R - 2013-03-11, 04:01
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-03-12, 10:06
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by staknhalo - 2013-03-12, 13:36
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-03-13, 01:33
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-03-13, 12:54
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-13, 03:30
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-13, 16:54
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-13, 19:37
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by staknhalo - 2013-03-15, 01:52
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-03-13, 12:10
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-03-13, 18:22
Re: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-03-13, 21:20
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-13, 21:51
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by LSU Jonno - 2013-03-14, 00:42
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-14, 03:33
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Dark_Slayer - 2013-09-22, 07:52
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by jeffj9930 - 2013-09-22, 15:25
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Angelscry - 2013-09-22, 15:29
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Dark_Slayer - 2013-09-22, 21:27
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by MeMeMe - 2013-09-22, 18:40
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-18, 19:26
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by smacrae - 2013-03-19, 00:52
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-19, 16:56
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by staknhalo - 2013-03-22, 18:15
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by spyder - 2013-03-19, 01:02
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by ConfusedTA - 2013-03-19, 14:47
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Dennis5056 - 2013-03-21, 10:33
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by jdmagoo - 2013-03-22, 06:24
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by d3maxt - 2013-03-22, 17:43
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Riztnack - 2013-03-25, 06:26
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by VladTepz - 2013-03-25, 12:05
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by asm495 - 2013-03-29, 19:43
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by moniker - 2013-03-31, 01:48
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by TjaLfE - 2013-04-04, 10:13
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by justinobwi - 2013-04-04, 18:58
RE: Does this mean there is hope for WMC PVR backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-04-09, 17:49
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Slappa - 2013-04-09, 13:09
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by scott967 - 2013-04-10, 05:59
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Why not WMC as backend? - by TjaLfE - 2013-04-24, 13:34
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by TjaLfE - 2013-05-06, 13:12
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by LSU Jonno - 2013-05-08, 16:08
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by bry - 2013-05-08, 16:30
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-08, 19:30
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by micster - 2013-05-06, 21:25
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Dennis5056 - 2013-05-07, 15:34
RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by JeffreyF - 2013-05-07, 16:35
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Why not WMC as backend? - by TjaLfE - 2013-05-28, 17:34
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RE: Why not WMC as backend? - by Sojhinn - 2013-06-03, 16:37
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