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(2016-05-19, 19:34)Tinwarble Wrote:
(2016-05-19, 14:06)drhill Wrote: I'd be fine with that if they would just come out and say it publicly. It is probable the most requested video feature on their boards and has been for a bunch of updates request threads. I wish they would also clean up their TrueHD implementation so that it could work in ExoPlayer instead of getting massive underruns.

Now if only Google would update AndroidTV to have as nice of a voice and notification integration as AppleTV as well as better HDMI CEC support. Ugh, I hate when I have to compliment Apple.

Edit: Looks like the new Android TV Mi Box will support MVC (but not mpeg2/vc1) http://www.mi.com/en/mibox/#specs

Like most large company's Nvidia is not going to come out and say what they aren't going to support. Not that it's right, that's just the way it works.

As for TrueHD, that's on Google. Nvidia hacked in TrueHD support since Android doesn't support it, but that should change with "N" which supposedly will also support IEC. Nvidia may backport that, though I have no direct info that they will, to Marshmallow, then it will be up to Google to properly support in in Exoplayer. Though Exoplayer only really matters in Plex, and we don't care about that app here. Wink

And voice and notification integration is on the app developers. Google provides the tools to integrate, but it still takes the app devs to implement it in their apps, Netflix, for example, has been slow to do that. But there is more coming in that area down the line.

ExoPlayer matters to me. I wrote my own Plex client that uses ExoPlayer for which I've had submitted code be accepted to get VC1 and PCM to work (PCM 8/24 bit is converted to 16 bit as PCM Float encoding only does two channels because Google). I also added PGS subs but didn't submit that as it was in my app not ExoPlayer though I'd be fine cleaning it up if they wanted me to add it. I decode audio using ffmpeg when passthrough and system decoding isn't available. Right now I'm just doing a second pass of cleaning up some of my ugly code. I'm much happier with it then I ever was with Kodi/Plex as both had issues or quirks. Even my wife is ok with it, which was surprising. I'll probably even add PIP support whenever N comes out.

The only thing I have missing is VC1 in the Nexus Player (could do ffmpeg, but their decoder is single threaded and the NP isn't up to snuff for that) and TrueHD passthrough. I've taken a few stabs at different times but the best I got was choppy sounds with buffer underruns. Looking at Koying's changes it seems like pauses need to be added and I don't know if that would fly in ExoPlayer. Everything else works without a hitch when playing any track.

Actually voice and notification integration isn't on app developers. If you watch Apple's demo of their system it is quite nice ( Confusedhudder for complimenting apple: ) and nothing like what Google provided for TV.
I can't seem to find proper answer for that...Is there samba support built in Shield? Not the samba server but client that would make possible to attach network share to the file system. And I don't mean through Kodi but system-wide.
No. You would have to use another app.
Ok but is this app makes attached folders visible to other apps?
Just apps with App support could access SMB. However, you can open the file from SMB using some file explorer that supports it and send the file to another app.

For instance, you can access a SMB share using ES Explorer and open a video file using MX Player.
Yeah I know I could that this way but it's not as convenient as native support. I've seen some root solutions that should work which means that at least there is a way to enable if I would really need it.

Just why Google made so many poor decision regarding this stripped version of linux...
Anyone know if the 3.2 firmware package will make it possible to play HDR 10bit files in Kodi/SPMC or is it just for Netflix/Youtube?
AppleTV 4K, LG 65E6 OLED TV, Marantz NR1606, Harmony Elite
(2016-05-19, 14:06)drhill Wrote:
(2016-05-19, 04:55)Tinwarble Wrote:
(2016-05-19, 03:23)hdmkv Wrote: Just wish they'd add MVC as repeatedly requested by many of us.

The last I heard (and it came directly from Nvidia) it's not something they are looking to do. They don't feel that it's something worth pursuing. This was pre 3.0 release.

In a few days or so I'll see if they are still of that opinion, but I wouldn't hold my breath that it will ever get added.

I'd be fine with that if they would just come out and say it publicly. It is probable the most requested video feature on their boards and has been for a bunch of updates request threads. I wish they would also clean up their TrueHD implementation so that it could work in ExoPlayer instead of getting massive underruns.

Now if only Google would update AndroidTV to have as nice of a voice and notification integration as AppleTV as well as better HDMI CEC support. Ugh, I hate when I have to compliment Apple.

Edit: Looks like the new Android TV Mi Box will support MVC (but not mpeg2/vc1) http://www.mi.com/en/mibox/#specs

Nice!! Maybe this can be an incentive for Nvidia to put MVC on Shield tv!!!
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(2016-05-20, 12:28)onesolo Wrote:
(2016-05-19, 14:06)drhill Wrote: Edit: Looks like the new Android TV Mi Box will support MVC (but not mpeg2/vc1) http://www.mi.com/en/mibox/#specs

Nice!! Maybe this can be an incentive for Nvidia to put MVC on Shield tv!!!

That's just the SoC specs. Tegra X1 can also decode MVC.
The whole software stack (kernel-decoders-renderers) must also support 3D before you see it on your TV...
(2016-05-20, 12:43)Koying Wrote:
(2016-05-20, 12:28)onesolo Wrote:
(2016-05-19, 14:06)drhill Wrote: Edit: Looks like the new Android TV Mi Box will support MVC (but not mpeg2/vc1) http://www.mi.com/en/mibox/#specs

Nice!! Maybe this can be an incentive for Nvidia to put MVC on Shield tv!!!

That's just the SoC specs. Tegra X1 can also decode MVC.
The whole software stack (kernel-decoders-renderers) must also support 3D before you see it on your TV...

I was hoping Google's foray into VR may at least get them to add frame packed support into Android. I'm not very optimistic for that though.

Edit: While I agree with Koying about it not being a given it will be supported (Sony's 2nd gen Google tv box had MVC in the specs) the Mi's spec page doesn't list MPEG2 or VC1 and I would be shocked if the hardware can't decode those. They are just choosing not to license them, which is silly in regards to MPEG2 as they won't be able to support LiveTV. Side question, doesn't the patent on MPEG2 expire this year? I feel like I read that somewhere a year ago.
IMHO, too much conclusions are drawn out of a "marketing" spec page.
Buzz is bad. Reviews are good Wink
I doubt we will see ever MVC on Shield. What legal content is available? 3D prosumer cameras are harder to find than hen's teeth.
On TV Samsung has 3D MVC playback (mkv from USB) but ,,degraded" with new TV generations. Maybe content owners had a talk with them...
(2016-05-20, 14:10)Koying Wrote: IMHO, too much conclusions are drawn out of a "marketing" spec page.
Buzz is bad. Reviews are good Wink

That's the opposite of what that company is about from what I've seen. Wink
(2016-05-20, 16:56)hansolo Wrote: I doubt we will see ever MVC on Shield. What legal content is available? 3D prosumer cameras are harder to find than hen's teeth.
On TV Samsung has 3D MVC playback (mkv from USB) but ,,degraded" with new TV generations. Maybe content owners had a talk with them...

While I won't argue against your conclusion, your reasoning for reaching it is flawed. Legal means different things in different countries, but Nvidia did add TrueHD support and there is no TrueHD content that isn't from a blu ray disc.
Hey guys and Gals -

After some frustrations with my Wetek Core, I bit the bullet and ordered the Shield TV.. it will be here tomorrow.

I plan on using SPMC for Kodi playback... is there a central list of Shield specific tips/tricks/tweaks (both Kodi/SPMC and non-Kodi related?)
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