(2015-05-07, 00:40)Ned Scott Wrote: Whatever issues people might have with j1nx should be treated as a different topic. On that topic, what the flying fuck do you think you are doing, j1nx? At least you word it so that you say you're just using Kodi, but you know about the massive uphill battle we've had regarding this piracy image, and you must know that this still ends up hurting the Kodi project.
As you guys apparently can not talk about one thing without dragging in the other. I will comment on it. But only because Ned appears to be the only one that at least takes some effort to look at the history.
Yes, I might be walking a dangerous path, but for sure I do not want to follow and therefor left the hypocritic path some of you guys are still on. I understand completely you guys need to do "something", but you guys are completely lost a) your roots. b) the connection with your userbase c) sense of reality. At the moment that piracy stand is WAY overdone IMHO.
I see Team members shouting so loud about piracy, the amount of hypocriticy is dripping from it and can been seen (maybe even smelled) from miles away. A year ago (maybe two), we all knew where all our TV-Series and movies came from. Full automated download systems where wildly discussed. And ofcourse;
None of us had build HTPC's with DVD-players inside that were properly region locked and used those machines to watch our bought DVD's. No we all have had a DVD player for that. The HTPC we all build was not an (over) expensive DVD player. No we used it to play our downloaded copies of movies and series. Sure there really will be the occasional hero that ripped all their official movies and only uses that, but c'mon be at least honest to yourself. In the old days, when I bought a DVD, I watched it and that was it. There was really NO point in ripping that movie onto a disk so I could watch it over and over again. Even if I only wanted to watch it once, we just shoved it into the DVD player. At that time XBMC was really not better than the better DVD player out there.
Because of the evolution of internet speeds, downloading now a days is a bit stupid as we all can downlaod faster as the movie duration. Hence why there is a shift in streaming. First it started off with streaming straight from usenet. Later on those copies went behind normal weblinks and http upload services.
I have always used XBMC for my pirated content and will keep doing so. For you guys out there reading this; Be freaking honest with yourself. I understand the Team members cannot shout it out loud and have to politically correctly respond, but at this moment the go way overboard with it.
I am not accusing any one. I am not pointing fingers to any one. Above words are my expressed opinion. Read it, think about it and be honest with yourself before you reply.
My view on the future;
You guys might aggressively dumping all shit over me now, but for the project to survice the evolution of the Internet and it own userbase, the current piracy path/stand taken if the biggest threat of the project. Please do not think that if you guys pull the finger and all just stop working on the code, that not soon "Cood-E" or similar will surface. I can't do it, but the world is way bigger than that. Smart people not joining you in your current codong mission is by no means an indication of the project getting at a halt if you stop. Where something stops, something else begin.
Kodi on itself just for local content what you guys would like it to be seen as because of your fear to have the plug pulled has no future imho. With the ARM hardware and the Android/Linux ports for that, hence they do not even have the optical players nor the storage capacity. (Sure you can dump it on a NAS, but again, the stuff on there will be 99% downloaded content | be honest with yourself).
So again;
To me Kodi == Piracy, but because of that I also see why the Foundation tries to let the world believe otherwise. The user base keeps growing so for you to not get the plug pulled you need to. You do however forget that Kodi it's immensly growing popularity is because of the piracy possibilities of it; Keep trying to prove otherwise, will bring the foundation down eventually.
It either get canceled by some legal action and soon some fork will arise at the darker places of internet
OR
You succeed in your mission to distance yourself, but than Kodi on it self has no future and soon some fork will arise at the darker places of internet (embrasing the piracy).
Maybe, MAYBE with closed sourced binary addons and some official plugins for HULU, Netflix etc it might survive a bit longer, but in the end piracy will still win (I believe).
So, I strongly believe in what Robotica says;
Quote:The legal home of the codebase, the US, is the largest threat to the codebase. This is the reality and XBMC Foundation should reflect this so proper stewardship could thrive.
Now onto my site;
My site has been long time off-line and only recently became active again. It is not finished yet, but this is what it would look like when I am done;
- I sell multimedia player hardware. Officially imported under the right TARIC codes and pay all BTW (VAT) (Nothing illegal there, and people with a little bit of insight will see the margins are really not that great)
- This device comes with default OpenELEC and KODI. I will respect all GPL licenses. The software is free and the sources are available.
- I sell an additional service that can be selected at the product / cart page to install an initial addon pack. The addon pack is/will be marketed as the content provider (The J1nxPack). Again, the software remains free and downloadable, respecting each and every license. I sell the service NOT the software.
I will most likely advertise the hardware as KODI media player. The software is comes with is default, absolutely nothing has been changed. This respects both the GPL as Trademark.
By dutch law none of the above is Illegal. It is illegal to provide the content or even the links to the content. However it is not illegal to sell tools /software that can be used for illegal actions. (You are allowed to sell knives that are murder weapons, using them for that purpose isn't)
Yes it sells, no it does not pay my bills.
Why? Because it is what we "the people / users" want.
(Why do you think PopCorn Time is so freaking popular in such a short time)
A few years from now, the world is using "Cood-E", a select few/group of nerds are using KODI inside their ivory tower.