[User 309201]

As far as i understand, it's mean (as there is only one codec in profils) the source image are 960*1080 per image and (potentially) i loss some quality.

I'm i right ?

Right. For some reason, you (or whoever made that file) chose to convert the video from frame-packed format to Side By Side format, and thus threw away at least half of the video information in the process. I don't know why you (or they) chose to do that; there is no need to. It is possible (and quicker!) to preserve the full frame-packed 3D video when converting to MKV. That is what you should do.

[billythekid13]

The "MultiView_Layout" line is probably the easiest one to check - that makes it clear that your file is in Side by Side format (i.e. both images compressed into a single frame).

But we've gone off on a rather long digression, here. The important point is that if you correctly repackage a 3D ISO into MKV format, that process is lossless - you aren't changing the video data at all, merely the container. So converting to MKV (correctly) will make no difference whatever to the video quality; but it will work around your long-pause-when-searching problem, and also save a little hard drive space too.

Yes ok, i rip iso to MKV and effectively it's avoid the long pause when searching.

Just a precision, in the example i give, i have: 

    Profil du format                         : [email protected]
    MultiView_Count                          : 2
    MultiView_Layout                         : Side by Side (left eye first)

So it's side by side in one 2D 1920*1080 image. As far as i understand, it's mean (as there is only one codec in profils) the source image are 960*1080 per image and (potentially) i loss some quality. 

I'm i right ?

Yes - you are reducing the resolution horizontally by half compared to retaining the 3D MVC encoding which delivers 2 x 1920x1080 eye feeds, not 2 x 960x1080 eye feeds.

thanks to all !! 
So the best is to rip ISO in MKV in MVC mode. :-) 
I 'm doing this (for my best 3D film) because of disk cunsumption ... :-)

[billythekid13]

As far as i understand, it's mean (as there is only one codec in profils) the source image are 960*1080 per image and (potentially) i loss some quality.

I'm i right ?

Right. For some reason, you (or whoever made that file) chose to convert the video from frame-packed format to Side By Side format, and thus threw away at least half of the video information in the process. I don't know why you (or they) chose to do that; there is no need to. It is possible (and quicker!) to preserve the full frame-packed 3D video when converting to MKV. That is what you should do.

Ok perfect. No it's not me :-) 
Many thanks

[User 309201]

So the best is to rip ISO in MKV in MVC mode. :-) 
I 'm doing this (for my best 3D film) because of disk cunsumption ... :-)

Well, it's your choice. The reason we started talking about converting to MKV was not to save disk space, it was to avoid the issue the Vero 4K+ has of freezing up the first time you skip when playing certain 3D ISO files. You will save some disk space by converting from ISO to MKV, but probably not very much - you might shrink a 40GB ISO to a 35GB MKV, maybe. (It will vary from film to film).

If you need to save disk space so badly that you are willing to compromise your video quality to do it, by all means convert to low-bitrate SBS. They're your videos - do what you want.

I just wanted to make sure that people understand that converting to MKV doesn't necessarily mean losing video quality.

[noggin]

Yes ok, i rip iso to MKV and effectively it's avoid the long pause when searching.

Just a precision, in the example i give, i have: 

    Profil du format                         : [email protected]
    MultiView_Count                          : 2
    MultiView_Layout                         : Side by Side (left eye first)

So it's side by side in one 2D 1920*1080 image. As far as i understand, it's mean (as there is only one codec in profils) the source image are 960*1080 per image and (potentially) i loss some quality. 

I'm i right ?

Yes - you are reducing the resolution horizontally by half compared to retaining the 3D MVC encoding which delivers 2 x 1920x1080 eye feeds, not 2 x 960x1080 eye feeds.

thanks to all !! 
So the best is to rip ISO in MKV in MVC mode. :-) 
I 'm doing this (for my best 3D film) because of disk cunsumption ... :-)

If you want the best quality rip in MVC mode - which will preserve the original video streams untouched.  If you just rip the main movie you won't be storing Extras - but you won't save huge amounts of disc space.  The rip should be pretty quick.

If you want to significantly reduce the size of your movies, then you will need to reduce the quality of them by re-encoding (aka transcoding) and HSBS or HTAB encodes will halve the horizontal or vertical resolution - but deliver lower sized files.

It's a choice for you to make - original quality and a large file, or lower resolution, lower quality with a smaller file.

[KaraokeAmerica]

I just want to warn people about the fact that for the moment, it looks for me a bit "unprecise" (gentle euphemism) to write that "yes, the Vero 4K+ is able to read 3D MVC files", for example.

But, the Vero-4K+ IS able to read 3D-MVC files. I use it all the time for this.....as recently as last week. What's not precise about this?

Not to be confused with the Vero-4K+ being perfect, because there is nothing perfect......

[Edworld]

I have the vero connected to a Panasonic plasma and I do not want the tv control to operate the Vero. How do I turn this option off?

[spursxbmc]

I have the vero connected to a Panasonic plasma and I do not want the tv control to operate the Vero. How do I turn this option off?

I think....

Settings > System > Input > Peripherals > then disable the CEC Adapter or adjust the settings within it.

[billythekid13]

Hello all, 

Each time i shut off TV with CEC parameter, the VERO 4K+ fall in satnd by. That is the normal way i want it. 

But, sometime, i don't know when, when i shut off the TV the VERO 4K+ don't fall in stand by. I don't know why. 

Some of you have the same strange behaviour ? 

Thanks

[Sam.Nazarko]

Hello all, 

Each time i shut off TV with CEC parameter, the VERO 4K+ fall in satnd by. That is the normal way i want it. 

But, sometime, i don't know when, when i shut off the TV the VERO 4K+ don't fall in stand by. I don't know why. 

Some of you have the same strange behaviour ? 

Thanks

It would be good to see some logs to advise on what the issue is here.

[billythekid13]

Hello all, 

Each time i shut off TV with CEC parameter, the VERO 4K+ fall in satnd by. That is the normal way i want it. 

But, sometime, i don't know when, when i shut off the TV the VERO 4K+ don't fall in stand by. I don't know why. 

Some of you have the same strange behaviour ? 

Thanks

It would be good to see some logs to advise on what the issue is here.

Thanks Sam, for all !! Ok i going to try posting log ...

[billythekid13]

Hello all, 

Each time i shut off TV with CEC parameter, the VERO 4K+ fall in satnd by. That is the normal way i want it. 

But, sometime, i don't know when, when i shut off the TV the VERO 4K+ don't fall in stand by. I don't know why. 

Some of you have the same strange behaviour ? 

Thanks

It would be good to see some logs to advise on what the issue is here.

Thanks Sam, for all !! Ok i going to try posting log ...

Tonight when i go to the standby menu, the Vero 4K don't do standby, it's stay "on". I test with CEC TV off and it's stay also "on". I supose that Vero 4K sometime can't run Stanby.. Where could i have the log for that ? Thanks

[Sam.Nazarko]

It would be good to see some logs to advise on what the issue is here.

Thanks Sam, for all !! Ok i going to try posting log ...

Tonight when i go to the standby menu, the Vero 4K don't do standby, it's stay "on". I test with CEC TV off and it's stay also "on". I supose that Vero 4K sometime can't run Stanby.. Where could i have the log for that ? Thanks

See https://osmc.tv/wiki/general/how-to-subm...t-request/

[billythekid13]

thanks. The problem that i have is a random problem. SOmetime it's ok, sometime not. I'm not going to let the log on (with trace on screen) during all my use... I'll try to activate log the next time it's appear (but without rebboting).. Is it ok ?

[billythekid13]

the log is there :

https://paste.osmc.tv/egurubefeb

Many thanks for your advice
Is it ok to see problem (i have tryed.. but no on my side..) 
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