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Swiper the Fox · 2013-01-30, 03:49

for me, tonight its the plug in giving me headaches (lag/freezing , cutting out completely etc... )
browser is working / streaming fine for me.......

don't know wtf

juggie · 2013-01-30, 04:05

(2013-01-30, 03:49)Swiper the Fox Wrote: for me, tonight its the plug in giving me headaches (lag/freezing , cutting out completely etc... )
browser is working / streaming fine for me.......

don't know wtf

browser does not use http streaming I don't think, uses RTMP.

fenixjr · 2013-01-30, 04:49

Quote:Ok thanx. I guess it stopped working on Eden. Don't know why it was working fine before

yeah, no idea what happened. I had been using it on Eden this past week, and i even tried to rollback in case it was an update, no good.

Now i'm having all these freezing lag/buffering headaches everyone else is having.

juggie · 2013-01-30, 04:51

What is blocking rtmp from working on frodo?

thaletterb · 2013-01-30, 06:04

Had the same error where the python script failed on trying to watch live games, and I reset all settings back to default, reentered username and pw and it worked. Hope this helps somebody out!

Lag still an issue though

binder420 · 2013-01-30, 07:25

(2013-01-30, 06:04)thaletterb Wrote: Had the same error where the python script failed on trying to watch live games, and I reset all settings back to default, reentered username and pw and it worked. Hope this helps somebody out!

Lag still an issue though

are you using Frodo or Eden??

robla · 2013-01-30, 07:43

(2013-01-30, 04:05)juggie Wrote: browser does not use http streaming I don't think, uses RTMP.

No, browser uses a different http streaming called HDS .. delivering fragmented mp4 container data.. the plugin uses the HLS streaming (mpeg ts indexed via playlist)

thaletterb · 2013-01-30, 08:59

(2013-01-30, 07:25)binder420 Wrote:
(2013-01-30, 06:04)thaletterb Wrote: Had the same error where the python script failed on trying to watch live games, and I reset all settings back to default, reentered username and pw and it worked. Hope this helps somebody out!

Lag still an issue though

are you using Frodo or Eden??

XBMC 12.0 RC2 (Frodo)

Carb0 · 2013-01-30, 10:29

Livestreams are only working in Frodo. I wasn't able to watch any games the last two nights but if the streams start then it's not an issue with the addon itself.

juggie · 2013-01-30, 18:14

(2013-01-30, 07:43)robla Wrote:
(2013-01-30, 04:05)juggie Wrote: browser does not use http streaming I don't think, uses RTMP.

No, browser uses a different http streaming called HDS .. delivering fragmented mp4 container data.. the plugin uses the HLS streaming (mpeg ts indexed via playlist)

Interesting... any possibility of implementing that in an addon or would that be something that xbmc would need to support?

Carb0 · 2013-01-30, 18:58

I don't see any advantage in implementing HDS. The addon will be slower (more page requests than now) but playback is not likely to improve.

91dxcrx · 2013-01-30, 21:09

Just did a fresh install of Frodo and now the addon crashes XBMC when attempting to stop or back out of a stream. Any ideas on what may be causing this?

Swiper the Fox · 2013-01-30, 23:27

Since gamecenter worked in browser but not through add-on, i would think that maybe something with the add-on was causing 'lag/latency'
This add-on does seem to utilize ability to 'unrestrict' access to all games based on location
is there soemthign in there that may have potentially caused grief/lag/latency / instability ??

91dxcrx · 2013-01-31, 00:34

(2013-01-30, 21:09)91dxcrx Wrote: Just did a fresh install of Frodo and now the addon crashes XBMC when attempting to stop or back out of a stream. Any ideas on what may be causing this?

Just reinstalled and everything is good again.

Carb0 · 2013-01-31, 00:46

The addon just scrapes links and plays them with the video player in XBMC. The addon does not unrestrict anything. The official apps just restrict the access to the links. If the stream starts the addon works fine. If you experience buffering or bad video quality this is caused by XBMC, a bad internet connection or the servers of the NHL/Neulion.

When I started programming the addon I was trying to use HDS. It's not that hard to find the mp4 fragments of HDS in Wireshark but I didn't find any way to get a list of all mp4 fragments to play them in XBMC as a continous stream. It may be possible to get it working with guessing the name of the next mp4 file but that won't be very reliable. This leaves us with HLS.

The HLS streams are used in the official Gamecenter apps on many (if not all) of the offically supported devices. They usually work very well but if a lot of people watch the streams at the same time it may not be possible to watch a stream at 3000kbit/s. The offical apps simply switch to a lower quality stream and you may not even notice it but XBMC is not able to do that. This is when you experience issues with buffering in XBMC. If the streams don't work well today try to play them on a Xbox 360, a Playstation 3 or any of the officially supported devices. If they switch to a lower quality you know that either your internet connection is too slow or that the NHL servers are too slow.

The instability of the addon is something I can work on. But I need logs to work on that because I never experienced any crashes of the addon.