[hoopsdavis]

Quick question. I noticed that when I click on Recordings on my raspberry pi, my latest/greatest recordings do not appear until I reboot. Now when I do this same thing on Windows, clicking Recordings always shows the latest/greatest, even those I just recorded.

Any reason why Recordings updates correctly in "real time" on my windows client and not on raspbmc?

I was wondering when someone would notice this.

When the server knows that the recordings list needs to be updated (for example when it knows a recorded will be starting soon), it signals the addon to do a recordings update after a delay. If the addon is a windows client, it starts a wait-timer function that waits a certain number of seconds and then tells xbmc to update the recordings list. However this wait-timer function is not portable to non-windows clients, so in non-windows you just have to wait for xbmc to do a recordings update on its own - how often this happens or what triggers it, I have not been able to determine.

There are some tricks I can do to possibly make these updates happen quicker for non-windows, but I have not implemented it yet, but its on the todo list.

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I've been trying to figure out how to get more info for the EPG data for a long time now, I'd like to see the subtitle info (sports teams and episode title) but I can't find a way to make it happen.

I had a hard time watching football this weekend with out the subtitile info in the guide

If the EPG in XBMC supported subtitle, then a plug could be made that mimics the Sports view on WMC.

Is the frustration here that you can't see what teams are playing in the guide view?

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Yes I am still working on this, but am having a difficult time trying to either cross-compile for the ARM architecture from my mac, or compile directly on my Apple TV. I have tried both and both are failing for various reasons. I am trying to work through them but unfortunately I haven't heard from Svanhess in a week or so now. If anyone has experience compiling for iOS or even just creating an Xcode project for xbmc-pvr-addons-frodo, please let me know!

Thanks,
Slowfoxtrot

Thanks for the update, glad to you know you are still working on it. I wish I could help.

Krusty, yes. when looking in the guide at sporting events, it only show the sport not the actual team. I'm not so concerned about the episode names, those we can do without, but the team competing would be great.

[krustyreturns]

Okay, I've got a new one. It has happened a few times and I've yet to get a log. Will work on reproducing and grab a log and whatever else is necessary. Sometimes, when changing channels, all of a sudden a channel will come up in SAP (Spanish). It happened last night while watching football. I never knew Al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth were so fluent...

I can get it back in English if I quit and restart XBMC (no restart of the WMC server). Last night, I just closed XBMC and watched the rest in WMC with no issue. Anyone seen or experienced anything like this?

Assuming you are running the newest version of the server:

If you have the default case of the log always being kept (which I recommend), next time this happens - while Al Michaels or whoever is speaking Spanish - just open the server and save the current log. Even better - again while the Spanish is ongoing - open tempxbmc and copy the LiveTV_*** wtv file to a safe locaiton too (so it doesn't get auto deleted). Then you can put both here:
https://drive.google.com/?tab=wo&authuse...zFhZmNPWUE.

This is not totally new, this was bigger problem before, but I thought I had it licked. Apparently not in all cases though, so if you can get the above for me that would be very helpful. In the meantime I will take another look at the language descriptor stuff.

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Krusty, yes. when looking in the guide at sporting events, it only show the sport not the actual team. I'm not so concerned about the episode names, those we can do without, but the team competing would be great.

I think the teams that are playing are there in the wmc database, it just shows up in a field that xbmc does not normally display in its guide view. I think this is easy to fix, I will take a look.

[hoopsdavis]

Krusty, yes. when looking in the guide at sporting events, it only show the sport not the actual team. I'm not so concerned about the episode names, those we can do without, but the team competing would be great.

I think the teams that are playing are there in the wmc database, it just shows up in a field that xbmc does not normally display in its guide view. I think this is easy to fix, I will take a look.

Thanks Krusty

[TheImmortal]

I have an HDHomeRun Prime with 3 tuners. All three tuners show up in ServerWMC. I have the default "start 2 minutes early, end 10 minutes after" recording set. Today I had back-to-back recordings (on different stations) and instead of activating the second tuner to start recording the new show, it stopped the first recording early in order to utilize the same tuner. Is this a limitation of WMC?

[krustyreturns]

I have an HDHomeRun Prime with 3 tuners. All three tuners show up in ServerWMC. I have the default "start 2 minutes early, end 10 minutes after" recording set. Today I had back-to-back recordings (on different stations) and instead of activating the second tuner to start recording the new show, it stopped the first recording early in order to utilize the same tuner. Is this a limitation of WMC?

By stopping early, you mean it stopped it before the 10 minute padding was up?

[User 137418]

Thanks. Will do if it happens again. I was not running the newest server on Sunday. I just updated yesterday.

I noticed today while watching a recorded episode of Jeopardy, it started with no sound at all. This file plays fine in WMC. Then I found that accessing the sound/subtitle menu when viewing in XBMC I was able to select the correct audio stream. It had nothing (or something that had no sound) selected by default for the audio stream. Occasionally happens with Jeopardy, haven't seen it with anything else. I think this recording was done with the most recent server, but am not positive.

[krustyreturns]

First off, thanks for all the great work on this!

I've got everything setup and have it working with 1 of my tuners (an HD-PVR), but am having trouble watching live TV from my other tuners (analog, and QAM tuners on a Hauppauge Win-TV card).

When attempting to tune live TV to any channel that is served-up from either the analog or QAM tuner, the process fails with a "No Video Data Found on this Channel" error. The channels don't have any issue from within WMC, and I can successfully watch any of the channels that are served up from the HD-PVR tuner through the XBMC PVR with no issues.

Any help in troubleshooting would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

I've provided one of the logs that includes the errors:
http://pastebin.com/UYFxPDn9

This doesn't explain these really weird results, but as a first step, please turn off the 'watched' recorded tv folders that you have set in wmc. At least until the next rev of the software, any wmc folder besides the main recorded tv folder will screw up the server. If you have the same problem, please run xbmc and the pvr.wmc client on the server machine. Post the log again if the problem is still there.

[krustyreturns]

Thanks. Will do if it happens again. I was not running the newest server on Sunday. I just updated yesterday.

I noticed today while watching a recorded episode of Jeopardy, it started with no sound at all. This file plays fine in WMC. Then I found that accessing the sound/subtitle menu when viewing in XBMC I was able to select the correct audio stream. It had nothing (or something that had no sound) selected by default for the audio stream. Occasionally happens with Jeopardy, haven't seen it with anything else. I think this recording was done with the most recent server, but am not positive.

Was Jeopardy actively recorded when you tried to view it, or was it recorded previously? Just as an experiment, stop then start the server and try to watch this episode of jeopardy again. If the same audio bug happens then it is xbmc that is having trouble auto selecting the correct audio stream, if it works, then it is likely my problem. Either way, it would be good to know.

[TheImmortal]

I have an HDHomeRun Prime with 3 tuners. All three tuners show up in ServerWMC. I have the default "start 2 minutes early, end 10 minutes after" recording set. Today I had back-to-back recordings (on different stations) and instead of activating the second tuner to start recording the new show, it stopped the first recording early in order to utilize the same tuner. Is this a limitation of WMC?

By stopping early, you mean it stopped it before the 10 minute padding was up?

Yes. The first recording should have gone from 7:58 to 9:10, and the second recording I expected to use a different tuner and record from 8:58 to 10:10. But what happened was the first went from 7:58 to 9:00, and the second from 9:00-10:10 and both used the same tuner. It didn't result in anything being cut off (this time), but it wasn't the expected behavior.

Okay, I looked at it again, and the two recordings that I am talking about were on the same channel. The recording that was scheduled on a different channel was from 9:58-11:10. That recording worked correctly, in the sense that it used a second tuner to start the recording on the different channel. So it seems that it just didn't want to do that for the two recordings on the same channel.

I would still prefer the second tuner to kick in despite being on the same channel because I run my shows through MCEBuddy and it has a tendancy to cut the last segement of the show out if the recording ends abruptly.

[w84no1]

Yes. The first recording should have gone from 7:58 to 9:10, and the second recording I expected to use a different tuner and record from 8:58 to 10:10. But what happened was the first went from 7:58 to 9:00, and the second from 9:00-10:10 and both used the same tuner. It didn't result in anything being cut off (this time), but it wasn't the expected behavior.

Okay, I looked at it again, and the two recordings that I am talking about were on the same channel. The recording that was scheduled on a different channel was from 9:58-11:10. That recording worked correctly, in the sense that it used a second tuner to start the recording on the different channel. So it seems that it just didn't want to do that for the two recordings on the same channel.

I would still prefer the second tuner to kick in despite being on the same channel because I run my shows through MCEBuddy and it has a tendancy to cut the last segement of the show out if the recording ends abruptly.

Did you set the first program to end after 10 mins or 10 mins..... when possible?

[krustyreturns]

I have an HDHomeRun Prime with 3 tuners. All three tuners show up in ServerWMC. I have the default "start 2 minutes early, end 10 minutes after" recording set. Today I had back-to-back recordings (on different stations) and instead of activating the second tuner to start recording the new show, it stopped the first recording early in order to utilize the same tuner. Is this a limitation of WMC?

By stopping early, you mean it stopped it before the 10 minute padding was up?

Yes. The first recording should have gone from 7:58 to 9:10, and the second recording I expected to use a different tuner and record from 8:58 to 10:10. But what happened was the first went from 7:58 to 9:00, and the second from 9:00-10:10 and both used the same tuner. It didn't result in anything being cut off (this time), but it wasn't the expected behavior.

Okay, I looked at it again, and the two recordings that I am talking about were on the same channel. The recording that was scheduled on a different channel was from 9:58-11:10. That recording worked correctly, in the sense that it used a second tuner to start the recording on the different channel. So it seems that it just didn't want to do that for the two recordings on the same channel.

I would still prefer the second tuner to kick in despite being on the same channel because I run my shows through MCEBuddy and it has a tendancy to cut the last segement of the show out if the recording ends abruptly.

That makes more sense. To answer your original question, my software doesn't control this, it just makes a request of the wmc rec service. I know the normal behavior of the service is to keep using the same tuner if the channel doesn't change. Since the channel is not changing, it is giving you the padding you requested, albeit split across two recordings.

Interestingly, I am not sure if wmc has a setting for this, but I think I recall a setting in the api for 'required' padding, instead of the normal 'when possible' padding. If so, this should give you the behavior you want. I will check it when I get a chance. If it is there and it works I could make it an option in the server settings.

[spaceboy]

as w84no1 says i would check the padding settings in wmc. the only setting that will force post padding is 10 mins after, not 10 mins when possible

kr - so i'd like to try and look at the problems with the pi's now if we can? what info can i provide you with regarding the no video errors on live tv and recorded tv not playing at all?

thanks

[spaceboy]

i noticed serverwmc had stopped running when i was looking at my htpc today, i think the error can be seen right at the end of this log https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3954...0Crash.log

[TheImmortal]

By stopping early, you mean it stopped it before the 10 minute padding was up?

Yes. The first recording should have gone from 7:58 to 9:10, and the second recording I expected to use a different tuner and record from 8:58 to 10:10. But what happened was the first went from 7:58 to 9:00, and the second from 9:00-10:10 and both used the same tuner. It didn't result in anything being cut off (this time), but it wasn't the expected behavior.

Okay, I looked at it again, and the two recordings that I am talking about were on the same channel. The recording that was scheduled on a different channel was from 9:58-11:10. That recording worked correctly, in the sense that it used a second tuner to start the recording on the different channel. So it seems that it just didn't want to do that for the two recordings on the same channel.

I would still prefer the second tuner to kick in despite being on the same channel because I run my shows through MCEBuddy and it has a tendancy to cut the last segement of the show out if the recording ends abruptly.

That makes more sense. To answer your original question, my software doesn't control this, it just makes a request of the wmc rec service. I know the normal behavior of the service is to keep using the same tuner if the channel doesn't change. Since the channel is not changing, it is giving you the padding you requested, albeit split across two recordings.

Interestingly, I am not sure if wmc has a setting for this, but I think I recall a setting in the api for 'required' padding, instead of the normal 'when possible' padding. If so, this should give you the behavior you want. I will check it when I get a chance. If it is there and it works I could make it an option in the server settings.

That would be awesome if it is available. Thank you!

[LehighBri]

Using this addon on windows I can play back wtv recordings just fine, but on my raspbmc client (using gotham nightly from Oct) I only get audio to play back and no video. Live TV plays back both video and audio, it's just the recordings that don't play back video on the rpi.

I have the MPG2 codec installed (not the VC-1 codec) and other MPG2 files play back fine. Any thoughts on this?

Here is the MediaInfo if you were curious: http://pastebin.com/cEyTHrcH
And the file itself (~58MB): https://www.dropbox.com/s/6qjfaxr7pp3p5k..._39_02.wtv

UPDATE: I decided to revert back to the latest stable Frodo build (the September update) and the above file now plays back fine on my rpi. So I guess it has something to do with the latest Gotham nightly I was using. But I'll plan to stick on Frodo for now unless someone can figure out why this was an issue.