[Harro]

Yes they are inside my case. Each hot swappable holds 5 drives, each drive is accessible from the outside of the case for when I want to upgrade, I simply open from the outside 1 drive bay and pull it out and replace with a larger one. As long as my parity drive is the same size or larger that the drive I am replacing, all info on new drive will be rebuilt, giving me the same info that was on my old drive, but now on my much larger drive, gaining me more storage space.

[CaptainPsycho]

Why not Raid 5? It would have the benefit of added failure security. If you have so many drives it would make sense and it only "wastes" 4 TB. You will probably need a Raid card since I don't know any (consumer) Mainboard that supports 11 Sata drives.

With 4Tb drives you need to go the raid6 way. With raid 5 you the posibility of having an URE on rebuild is greater 1.

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PSU:

LEPA MaxBron B800-MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6817494017
XFX Core Edition PRO850W (P1-850S-NLB9) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6817207011
LEPA MaxBron B1000-MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6817494018
CORSAIR HX Series HX750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6817139010
NZXT HALE90 V2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6817116030

800W is pure overkill for your solution. A good 500W one will be sufficient.

[kwanbis]

Yes they are inside my case. Each hot swappable holds 5 drives, each drive is accessible from the outside of the case for when I want to upgrade, I simply open from the outside 1 drive bay and pull it out and replace with a larger one. As long as my parity drive is the same size or larger that the drive I am replacing, all info on new drive will be rebuilt, giving me the same info that was on my old drive, but now on my much larger drive, gaining me more storage space.

So that is my question, what case is that? I don't see it on the list.

With 4Tb drives you need to go the raid6 way. With raid 5 you the posibility of having an URE on rebuild is greater 1.

800W is pure overkill for your solution. A good 500W one will be sufficient.

I rather get a 600W one, just in case. I don't know, tomorrow I might decide to add a better video board. Maybe even 650w. Any recommendations around 60~80?

[Milhouse]

I thought PSUs were meant to be at their most efficient when run at 50% load. So I'd size your PSU based on twice your expected total load.

[QLink]

for drivepooling/duplication maybe take a look @ drivebender.

it works fine for me since many years and supports all windows platforms including ReFS filesystem.
imho drivebender should fit your needs really well.

best greetz

[kwanbis]

I thought PSUs were meant to be at their most efficient when run at 50% load. So I'd size your PSU based on twice your expected total load.

Problem is how do I size it. This is what I plan to install, and the assumed watts:

Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor @ 53 watts.
ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Professional ATX LGA1150 Motherboard @ 112 watts (loaded).
10x WD Red 4TB @ 4.5w @ 45w (x10)
120GB SSD (kingston) @ 2.1w

The total is 212 watts. Double that for startup is 424 watts. So, while running, it should not consume more than 300 watts. So a 650 watts unit should be enough? Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks.

[Milhouse]

A 500W PSU should be sufficient while also efficient, but a 600W PSU would give you that extra bit of headroom. More than 600W is probably overkill and unnecessary IMHO.

[twelvebore]

ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Professional ATX LGA1150 Motherboard @ 112 watts (loaded).

Where did you get 112W for the motherboard from??! That's insane (as in: wrong). The motherboard itself shouldn't consume more than a handful of watts. Ten maybe. A hundred? That's not correct.

I have a fifteen drive server and it idles at <100W (by idle I mean the drives are spinning, but the CPU is just doing low-grade stuff like serving files).

[Milhouse]

Maybe the 112W includes the CPU (rest accounted for by chipset, VRMs etc.) although 112 would still be a bit high. Either way, 500W should be more than enough.

[Harro]

So that is my question, what case is that? I don't see it on the list.

Cooler Master CM 590

[kwanbis]

Where did you get 112W for the motherboard from??! That's insane (as in: wrong). The motherboard itself shouldn't consume more than a handful of watts. Ten maybe. A hundred? That's not correct.

I have a fifteen drive server and it idles at <100W (by idle I mean the drives are spinning, but the CPU is just doing low-grade stuff like serving files).

I looked up the mb on internet, and there was some review, maybe I got it wrong. Here are some links, but it appears that is micro + gpu + mother:

http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-deta...review/21/
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asr...iew,9.html



Point is a 600w PSU should be more than enough, right, I mean, in case tomorrow I decide to add an external video card.

So any PSU recommendation for 600w PSU for around 60 bucks? It is important that it hast enough sata power connector (I would need 11). I don't actually need 11 sata power connector, I might use some a molex to sata adapter, but total should be 11.

[00b5]

Where did you get 112W for the motherboard from??! That's insane (as in: wrong). The motherboard itself shouldn't consume more than a handful of watts. Ten maybe. A hundred? That's not correct.

I have a fifteen drive server and it idles at <100W (by idle I mean the drives are spinning, but the CPU is just doing low-grade stuff like serving files).

I looked up the mb on internet, and there was some review, maybe I got it wrong. Here are some links, but it appears that is micro + gpu + mother:

http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-deta...review/21/
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asr...iew,9.html



Point is a 600w PSU should be more than enough, right, I mean, in case tomorrow I decide to add an external video card.

So any PSU recommendation for 600w PSU for around 60 bucks? It is important that it hast enough sata power connector (I would need 11). I don't actually need 11 sata power connector, I might use some a molex to sata adapter, but total should be 11.

Ya, you are double counting at least the CPU, so call that ~150watts.

So 600 is plenty. If you want to make SURE that you have enough for a full on gaming GPU down the road, then thats probably ok. You can go the extra mile and get a gold certified PSU instead, maybe its extra efficiency will make up for the being slightly overpowered in the mean time?

[kwanbis]

Sorry guys to keep bugging about this, but it is not only a big investment (to put it into perspective I was originally planning on spending $100) but all the components that I buy I would import from USA, so there is no chance for error on selecting them.

To briefly recap this is to build a HTPC capable of 3D and 1080p that would be used with XBMC. At this point I’m not interested on any type of gaming, maybe a little emulation. For reasons that are not needed to discuss, I need it to also hold 10 WD Red 4TB hard drives, and 1 SSD 120GB.

So this is are the options I have chosen as of now:

MOTHERBOARD:
ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Professional http://bit.ly/1o0w17n $157 @ http://bit.ly/1rEwEYd
OR
ASRock Z97 Extreme6 http://bit.ly/1hSSlu7 $170 @ http://bit.ly/1jNs0NF

I like the Extreme6 a little bit better, as all 10 SATA are 6gbps.

CASE:
Rosewill Gaming Computer Case THOR V2 http://amzn.com/B0058P5S9A
OR
Nzxt Technologies Phantom Phan-002Gr http://amzn.com/B004WO17UC

I like the Rosewill a little bit better.

CPU:
Intel Pentium Processor G3420 3.2 GHz LGA 1150 http://amzn.com/B00EUVHMR4 (I would need to use my Radeon HD 6570)
OR
Intel Core i3-4130 3.4 3 FCLGA 1150 http://amzn.com/B00EUUKVXM
OR
Intel Core i3-4150 LGA 1150 http://amzn.com/B00J2LIF2S

Here it is basically a matter of going for an i3 of a Pentium. The Pentium is about 70 dollars, so I would be saving 50 bucks.

PSU:
I still have no clear idea. I want a PSU that would support whatever is decided to build the system, including 1xSSD and 10xHDD. Ideally it should cost $60 and no more than $80, unless absolutely necessary.

The power consumption is about:
Mother + CPU 112 watts (loaded).
10x WD Red 4TB @ 45w (x10)
120GB SSD (kingston) @ 2.1w
TOTAL: 160 watts.

If I double that, it is 320 watts, so a 500+ watts unit should be more than enough.

Of course I might be wrong on parts or all of this reasoning, so I'm open to criticism.

PLEASE, help.

[kwanbis]

wow 1024 views!

[mobias1313]

No I'm not suggesting RAID 0, you can think of JBOD as RAID 0 except it works with disks of any size. The dangers are still there.

How is JBOD like RAID0?They are completely different. JBOD is each disk is it's own entity and RAID0 stripes across multiple disks. If a single disk fails you lose everything. If a single disk fails in JBOD you lose only that disk.

To the original poster. Personally with the setup you are looking to employ the best way to accomplish this would truly be to utilize a server and client architecture. Look at anyone who runs a large system like this and you will see that the array is always built in a separate stand alone server. I would also agree that you should consider some sort of redundancy. I personally have two 33TB arrays using UnRaid and have never regretted that decision. Additionally don't look for a motherboard that supports 10+ drives. You would be better off looking at a motherboard with multiple PCI-E slots and utilizing an LSI based controller, such as the IBM M1015. Each one is capable of supporting 8 SATA3.0 drives. Additionally you can flash these to run in IR (RAID Mode) or IT (JBOD Mode).

Before buying a single item I would seriously plan out every aspect of your end goal and plan on spending additional money. Because it will happen. I would also recommend purchasing your hard drives at a different time, unless you really want to risk losing 2 or more at once.