2015-02-09, 16:26
(2015-02-09, 16:15)-DDD- Wrote: Here http://skinflint.co.uk/eu/intel-nuc-kit-...filterform
Thanks, but i cant find a place where they ship to Portugal.
(2015-02-09, 16:15)-DDD- Wrote: Here http://skinflint.co.uk/eu/intel-nuc-kit-...filterform
(2015-02-09, 16:24)wrxtasy Wrote: Yes a Chromebox can output 4K at up to 30Hz.You keep linking to the same article about the HDMI capability of Haswell when I'm talking about the DisplayPort capability. The U version can drive UHD / "4k" @ 60Hz using MST. It can't using SST.
BUT even though it has Haswell microarchitecture and DP1.2 - that does not mean the mobile version (U) of the GPU/VPU supports 4K video output @ 60Hz.
Broadwell is a different story.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7007/intel...spective/7
Quote:4th generation Intel® Core™ processor family
(Intel® Iris™ Pro graphics 5200 / Intel® Iris™ graphics 5100, Intel® HD graphics 5000 / 4600 / 4400 / 4200)
DisplayPort* 1.2 / eDP*
H-Processors: 3840 x 2160 @ 60 Hz (Ultra-HD)
U-Processors: 3200 x 2000 @ 60 Hz, 3840 x 2160 @ 30 Hz
Y-Processors: 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz
HDMI*: 4096 x 2304, 3840 x 2160 @ 24 Hz / 24bpp
DVI: 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
Quote:5th generation Intel® Core™ processor family (Intel® Iris™ graphics 6100, , Intel® HD graphics 5500 / 5600) Intel® Iris™ Pro graphics 6200 (Mid-2015)
DisplayPort* 1.2 / eDP*
U-Processors: 3840 x 2160 @ 60 Hz
H-Processors: 4096 x 2304 @ 60 Hz
HDMI*: 4096 x 2304, 3840 x 2160 @ 24 Hz / 24bpp
DVI: 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
(2015-01-09, 20:21)gandharva Wrote:Anyone knows, if this Hybrid H.265 mode of decoding is enough to decode 4k x265?(2015-01-09, 01:13)myst4ry Wrote: There doesn't seem to be much difference between 4th gen and 5th gen, not worth an upgrade for existing owners probably.If you aim for HEVC/H.265 there is a big difference:
Quote: Broadwell’s video decode capabilities will also be increasing compared to Haswell. On top of Intel’s existing codec support, Broadwell will be implementing a hybrid H.265 decoder, allowing Broadwell to decode the next-generation video codec in hardware, but not with the same degree of power efficiency as H.264 today. In this hybrid setup Intel will be utilizing both portions of their fixed function video decoder and executing decoding steps on their shaders in order to offer complete H.265 decoding. The use of the shaders for part of the decoding process is less power efficient than doing everything in fixed function hardware but it’s better than the even less optimal CPU.http://www.anandtech.com/show/8355/intel...re-preview
The use of a hybrid approach is essentially a stop-gap solution to the problem – the lead time on the finalization of H.265 would leave little time to develop a fixed function encoder for anyone with a long product cycle like Intel – and we expect that future generation products will have a full fixed function decoder. In the meantime Intel will be in the company of other GPU manufacturers such as NVIDIA, who is using a similar hybrid approach for H.265 on their Maxwell architecture.
(2015-02-09, 17:17)wrxtasy Wrote: You must have one up on Intel then....First, 4k is 4096x2160. UHD is 3840x2160. Unfortunately, the latter has become commonly known as "4k" even though it's not.
4K = 3840 x 2160
Haswell:
Quote:4th generation Intel® Core™ processor family
(Intel® Iris™ Pro graphics 5200 / Intel® Iris™ graphics 5100, Intel® HD graphics 5000 / 4600 / 4400 / 4200)
DisplayPort* 1.2 / eDP*
H-Processors: 3840 x 2160 @ 60 Hz (Ultra-HD)
U-Processors: 3200 x 2000 @ 60 Hz, 3840 x 2160 @ 30 Hz
Y-Processors: 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz
HDMI*: 4096 x 2304, 3840 x 2160 @ 24 Hz / 24bpp
DVI: 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
Broadwell:
Quote:5th generation Intel® Core™ processor family (Intel® Iris™ graphics 6100, , Intel® HD graphics 5500 / 5600) Intel® Iris™ Pro graphics 6200 (Mid-2015)
DisplayPort* 1.2 / eDP*
U-Processors: 3840 x 2160 @ 60 Hz
H-Processors: 4096 x 2304 @ 60 Hz
HDMI*: 4096 x 2304, 3840 x 2160 @ 24 Hz / 24bpp
DVI: 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
https://software.intel.com/en-us/article...r-graphics
(2015-02-09, 18:35)wrxtasy Wrote: Well I'll be, maybe I should hook my home entertainment Intel 4K equiptment up to movie projection industry standard 4096 x 2160 / 4K projector, anything else and I'm going to feel ripped off !!!FWIW, the Sony 4k home theater projectors are true 4k (4096x2160), not UHD. They're the only entertainment oriented consumer "displays" I know of that are 4k.
After all they sold it to me and told me it would do 4k.
Quote:Included in the box: 19 V, 65 W wall-mount AC-DC power adapter with multi-country AC plugs (IEC types A/C/G/I)
Quote:Included in the box: Power cord options (Types B, E, G, or no cord)
(2015-02-09, 16:26)tfouto Wrote:(2015-02-09, 16:15)-DDD- Wrote: Here http://skinflint.co.uk/eu/intel-nuc-kit-...filterform
Thanks, but i cant find a place where they ship to Portugal.
(2015-02-10, 23:05)Sniffer77 Wrote: Hi all
Am I better getting i5 4th gen or the i3 5th gen? Similar price for barebones (well i3 cheaper), or wait for a potential 4th gen i5discount when 5th gen is released?
I want it to be my main nuc for movies and live tv. Going to install small ssd and min 1tb harddrive for my movies.
I watch some live tv and have some sd content stored. My dn2820 is great with 1080 but struggles with live tv and sd picture. I understand that's due to interlacing issues (don't understand that yet)
I've seen chromebox zotac etc but I just fancy nuc, can't explain why lol.
Thanks all
(2015-02-09, 19:14)Stereodude Wrote:(2015-02-09, 18:35)wrxtasy Wrote: Well I'll be, maybe I should hook my home entertainment Intel 4K equiptment up to movie projection industry standard 4096 x 2160 / 4K projector, anything else and I'm going to feel ripped off !!!FWIW, the Sony 4k home theater projectors are true 4k (4096x2160), not UHD. They're the only entertainment oriented consumer "displays" I know of that are 4k.
After all they sold it to me and told me it would do 4k.
(2015-02-09, 17:18)tfouto Wrote:(2015-01-09, 20:21)gandharva Wrote:Anyone knows, if this Hybrid H.265 mode of decoding is enough to decode 4k x265?(2015-01-09, 01:13)myst4ry Wrote: There doesn't seem to be much difference between 4th gen and 5th gen, not worth an upgrade for existing owners probably.If you aim for HEVC/H.265 there is a big difference:
Quote: Broadwell’s video decode capabilities will also be increasing compared to Haswell. On top of Intel’s existing codec support, Broadwell will be implementing a hybrid H.265 decoder, allowing Broadwell to decode the next-generation video codec in hardware, but not with the same degree of power efficiency as H.264 today. In this hybrid setup Intel will be utilizing both portions of their fixed function video decoder and executing decoding steps on their shaders in order to offer complete H.265 decoding. The use of the shaders for part of the decoding process is less power efficient than doing everything in fixed function hardware but it’s better than the even less optimal CPU.http://www.anandtech.com/show/8355/intel...re-preview
The use of a hybrid approach is essentially a stop-gap solution to the problem – the lead time on the finalization of H.265 would leave little time to develop a fixed function encoder for anyone with a long product cycle like Intel – and we expect that future generation products will have a full fixed function decoder. In the meantime Intel will be in the company of other GPU manufacturers such as NVIDIA, who is using a similar hybrid approach for H.265 on their Maxwell architecture.
Thanks