[horstepipe]

ah ok I thought cv would analyze the nfo files..
These are to 90% trailers of movies I don't have in my Kodi database, so I guess adding only the trailers to database makes no sense.
Thank you

[GoofyJeff]

Kinda along the same lines as horstepipe's question/issue... My trailers are downloaded into a local folder (the Trailers folder in my CV directory), and all of them are for movies coming soon to my HTPC (that is, I don't have them yet), and many of which haven't been released to theaters yet. I was wondering if I needed nfo files to get the rating and genre filters to work, but now reading Scott's reply I see that's not the case. So what needs to be done to get the filters to work properly?

[horstepipe]

from my understanding there is no way to do that unfortunately.
To be honest I don't understand why this feature is missing. Why should I want to watch trailers of movies I already own/know?
Doesn't this make the genre/rating filter useless for almost everyone?

Please don't get me wrong I really appreciate the work put in this addon, I'm just a little confused why this feature wasn't implemented in earlier development

[Dave the Minion]

This seems to be the majority of the log from testing today trying to get CV to scan the content folder on the Pi, as well as running CV which does not play any videos from specified directories outside the CV default.


http://pastebin.com/a1cZtEEX

Mod edit. Removed full log

[Ragnarok]

ah ok I thought cv would analyze the nfo files..
These are to 90% trailers of movies I don't have in my Kodi database, so I guess adding only the trailers to database makes no sense.
Thank you

Having CinemaVision scrape in content using local NFO files is on our list of things to do, but it wasn't on our list of 1st round features. That feature will likely be coming before the 2.0 release.

Kinda along the same lines as horstepipe's question/issue... My trailers are downloaded into a local folder (the Trailers folder in my CV directory), and all of them are for movies coming soon to my HTPC (that is, I don't have them yet), and many of which haven't been released to theaters yet. I was wondering if I needed nfo files to get the rating and genre filters to work, but now reading Scott's reply I see that's not the case. So what needs to be done to get the filters to work properly?

Well, you don't currently need NFO files. We currently need to retrieve rating and genre information from the Kodi database to tell what those are for any given trailer. We'll add the ability to scrape local NFO files. In the meantime, you could create a stub file for a movie, and attach a trailer to it, then scrape those in to the Kodi database, but that's a ton of work. I've got our developer estimating the work now.

from my understanding there is no way to do that unfortunately.
To be honest I don't understand why this feature is missing. Why should I want to watch trailers of movies I already own/know?
Doesn't this make the genre/rating filter useless for almost everyone?

Please don't get me wrong I really appreciate the work put in this addon, I'm just a little confused why this feature wasn't implemented in earlier development

Honestly, the feature is missing because it wasn't in Cinema Experience, and wasn't on our radar. It was daunting to try to figure out every scenario that people would want to use CinemaVision for, which is why we picked a direction and feature set to focus on for the first round of development. The idea was that people would stream the new releases instead of spending time downloading and cataloging them, just because it's simpler. When we were asked to include support for local trailers, we were told it was to have a trailer module that showcases other movies that are available in Kodi. They wanted a "Coming Soon to This Theater", and a "Now Playing" trailer module, so that's what we focused on. Now that we know there are other uses for local trailers, we have a feature to add.

The genre and rating are still useful to streaming trailers, and any trailer scraped into Kodi's database, either hosted locally or a link to a YouTube trailer.

I certainly don't take offense. It's dialog like this that helps us improve the add-on, and I'm really glad you're enjoying it.

This seems to be the majority of the log from testing today trying to get CV to scan the content folder on the Pi, as well as running CV which does not play any videos from specified directories outside the CV default.


http://pastebin.com/a1cZtEEX

Mod edit. Removed full log

I've passed this on to our developer. I can't for the life of me recreate what you're seeing here either nested in the %CVROOT% or located somewhere else entirely, like another hard drive or network storage. I'll let you know what we find.

[horstepipe]

The genre and rating are still useful to streaming trailers

How does this work?
If CV streams a trailer (e.g. from Youtube) where does it get the genre and rating info from?

Thank you for your detailed answer!

Regards

[Ragnarok]

How does this work?
If CV streams a trailer (e.g. from Youtube) where does it get the genre and rating info from?

Thank you for your detailed answer!

Regards

We don't actually have a scraper for YouTube. Kodi automatically creates a YouTube trailer link for any film that you have in your library, and then scrapes that link into the Kodi database. We then take the rating, genre and the YouTube link from the Kodi database and use that information to process those trailers.

We do have an iTunes scraper (and will be adding other scrapers later) that uses the iTunes API to get the rating and genre information stored in iTunes. The information isn't always right, because the folks at Apple are lazy about updating trailers that were originally not rated, but it works pretty well. We also have a scraper for StereoscopyNews.com for 3D trailers that works the same way.

[horstepipe]

thank you,
then for now I'll only use the iTunes and StereoscopyNews scraper.

another question: In most times at the beginnig of a streaming trailer you see "please wait" because Kodi has to buffer the video. Is there a way to mask that out or to preload the video? Because this (and the genre/ratings filter) is the main reason I want my trailers to be saved locally

[FonziQ]

Hi,

When playing a trailer with same genre as movie:

Ember media manager organizes genre in alphabetical order for example....
action - drama - psychological thriller

My question is do i have to edit the genre an put psychological thriller in front so it plays other trailers with psychological thriller,
psychological thriller - action - drama

Or it doesn't make any difference the order of the genres?

I have a lot of genres apart from the basics ones....film in film, futuristic thriller, social drama + 80 more and it would be very cool if it played one of those genres.
I have the trailers next to the movie and movie has nfo file.


Cheers!!!

[Ragnarok]

thank you,
then for now I'll only use the iTunes and StereoscopyNews scraper.

another question: In most times at the beginnig of a streaming trailer you see "please wait" because Kodi has to buffer the video. Is there a way to mask that out or to preload the video? Because this (and the genre/ratings filter) is the main reason I want my trailers to be saved locally

We'll be adding more scrapers soon. That buffering dialog that you see can be disabled, but doing so also disables the dialog you see when you pause your content. We also have plans to allow background downloading of content to try to curb that dialog showing up at all. If you're interested, let me know and I'll send you instructions for disabling those dialogs.

Hi,

When playing a trailer with same genre as movie:

Ember media manager organizes genre in alphabetical order for example....
action - drama - psychological thriller

My question is do i have to edit the genre an put psychological thriller in front so it plays other trailers with psychological thriller,
psychological thriller - action - drama

Or it doesn't make any difference the order of the genres?

I have a lot of genres apart from the basics ones....film in film, futuristic thriller, social drama + 80 more and it would be very cool if it played one of those genres.
I have the trailers next to the movie and movie has nfo file.


Cheers!!!

When Kodi scrapes in trailers from a source like iTunes it sets the genre of that trailer to what's found in iTunes, which will not be very granular in their genres. If that trailers genre doesn't match the genre of your feature, CinemaVision doesn't know that it needs to play that trailer with that feature. You can certainly manually edit all of those genres in the Kodi database and then update your content in CinemaVision, but that's a ton of work. You could also choose to store all of your trailers locally with NFO files containing the specific genres you want, but they have to be scraped into the Kodi database for CinemaVision to see them, currently.

[horstepipe]

yes please tell me how to disable that, I'll try it.
maybe there is a way to auto disable and re-enable it when CE ends/starts?

[Dave the Minion]

This seems to be the majority of the log from testing today trying to get CV to scan the content folder on the Pi, as well as running CV which does not play any videos from specified directories outside the CV default.


http://pastebin.com/a1cZtEEX

Mod edit. Removed full log

I've passed this on to our developer. I can't for the life of me recreate what you're seeing here either nested in the %CVROOT% or located somewhere else entirely, like another hard drive or network storage. I'll let you know what we find.

Any luck looking into this? CV on the Pi just keeps skipping most of the default files in the CV root folder even though it does find some, and won't play anything from a specific directory at all even though the Pi can find these files through other means. It's getting silly Frustrating.

[Ragnarok]

yes please tell me how to disable that, I'll try it.
maybe there is a way to auto disable and re-enable it when CE ends/starts?

You'll find the information here under the heading How to Suppress the Busy Dialog & Pop-ups. What you're looking for is the last one, and we don't recommend you do it.

Unfortunately, it's an XML file edit, so there's no way to auto disable and enable the setting as it requires a reload of Kodi to take effect.

Any luck looking into this? CV on the Pi just keeps skipping most of the default files in the CV root folder even though it does find some, and won't play anything from a specific directory at all even though the Pi can find these files through other means. It's getting silly Frustrating.

Just replied to your PM, sir. It's like CV can't see or can't read the CinemaVision share. I've given you a few things to try in the PM.

[termijavihd]

Hello everyone, nice to be in this forum.

I wonder if with CinemaVision can cause the trailer to operate automatically before the movie without going to the context menu and click on CinemaVision, only giving a play or movie intro at the appointed.

I hope I have explained well, I apologize but I used google translator to write the post, my English is not very fluent.

I'd love to explicaseis this, greetings to all.

[MidnightWatcher]

You can get CinemaVision to play trailers/intros automatically, but you need to go through CinemaVision only.