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Android nVidia Shield TV (2015 & 2017 Models) - UPDATED: May 25, 2018
(2018-12-31, 21:49)Jeffers24 Wrote:
(2018-12-31, 21:18)docwra Wrote:
(2018-12-31, 14:04)m.r.f. Wrote: cheap remote control: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H97K5RsjERI  
Yep working perfect now on my Shield. Not bad for $6!  
Which one did you go for Bluetooth or dongle? 
Buy the Bluetooth version.
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Today I tested my Shield TV again but with the new update 7.2.2. I was waiting this update from a lot of time. "Auto Color Space" is really a good option. My Shield TV is configured for UHD files and I tried to use 1920x1080 files and I got horrible colors. I could never imagine seeing such a bad video with this new update. Yes, "Auto Color Space" is a good option but I hope Shield TV can get another update at least at the end of 2019, that is "Auto switching UHD/FHD". Has anyone ever taken this test?
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(2019-01-01, 23:58)FoxADRIANO Wrote: Today I tested my Shield TV again but with the new update 7.2.2. I was waiting this update from a lot of time. "Auto Color Space" is really a good option. My Shield TV is configured for UHD files and I tried to use 1920x1080 files and I got horrible colors. I could never imagine seeing such a bad video with this new update. Yes, "Auto Color Space" is a good option but I hope Shield TV can get another update at least at the end of 2019, that is "Auto switching UHD/FHD". Has anyone ever taken this test?
I'm pretty certain Kodi does UHD/FHD switching already on the Shield if you configure your whitelists correctly.

Is your Sony UHD TV on Colour Space AUTO in Video settings?  If not the colour switching of the Shield TV will be ignored. (If you fix the TV at Rec 709 or Rec 2020 you override the Shield TV)
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On Whitelist of Kodi I chose 3840x2160 and 1920x1080 and I added them on the right panel. My videos are all 25p but there isn't that option. It is strange. I see 24p, 29,9p, 30p. mmmm I chose 24p.
I hope configured Kodi well. Despite this I see horrible colors with 1920x1080 files, especially with green. It is very vivid, very bright and it seems to burst.

About my Bravia Sony UHD TV I don't see the option to manage Colour Space on Settings. I verify it carefully. Where is it precisely please? My TV is Sony TV KD-65X8509C.
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(2019-01-01, 05:28)hdmkv Wrote: Yes, it does. I get HDR signal even with 8-bit, but when it's indicating it's getting 10- or 12-bit, PQ has more pop (or maybe it's placebo). Know @wesk05 has mentioned that several displays get the bit depth wrong (even when actually rendering 10-bit), so who knows. I'm thinking of investing in a HD Fury Vertex.
 With 4:2:2 if you don't get banding, you can safely ignore the 8-bit being reported by AVRs, projectors and HDFury devices (HDFury reports "upto 12-bits"). None of these devices report the actual bit depth in use with 4:2:2 pixel packing format.
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(2019-01-01, 23:58)FoxADRIANO Wrote: Today I tested my Shield TV again but with the new update 7.2.2. I was waiting this update from a lot of time. "Auto Color Space" is really a good option. My Shield TV is configured for UHD files and I tried to use 1920x1080 files and I got horrible colors. I could never imagine seeing such a bad video with this new update. Yes, "Auto Color Space" is a good option but I hope Shield TV can get another update at least at the end of 2019, that is "Auto switching UHD/FHD". Has anyone ever taken this test?
I have been following your posts and the "troubles" that you are having with nVIDIA Shield. Have you ever considered that this color issue that you have may be a problem of your TV. I say this because I have seen something similar with one of my Samsung UHD TVs. Sometimes after I use Apple TV 4K (UHD HDR10), the output from my TiVo (1080p BT 709) will have bizarre colors. The only way I can fix it is by powering off the TV completely.
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(2019-01-02, 04:18)wesk05 Wrote: I have been following your posts and the "troubles" that you are having with nVIDIA Shield. Have you ever considered that this color issue that you have may be a problem of your TV.
 When I watch my videos with the internal TV software I watch videos well. When I use Shield TV I get problems. I don't know my problem.

nogging has jut told I need to choose AUTO Colour Space on Sony UHD TV but I don't see that option.
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(2019-01-02, 02:11)FoxADRIANO Wrote: On Whitelist of Kodi I chose 3840x2160 and 1920x1080 and I added them on the right panel. My videos are all 25p but there isn't that option. It is strange. I see 24p, 29,9p, 30p. mmmm I chose 24p.
I hope configured Kodi well. Despite this I see horrible colors with 1920x1080 files, especially with green. It is very vivid, very bright and it seems to burst.

About my Bravia Sony UHD TV I don't see the option to manage Colour Space on Settings. I verify it carefully. Where is it precisely please? My TV is Sony TV KD-65X8509C.
 For 25p content you should chose 50p. (This will display every frame twice)   For the 50p content you shared with me you should also chose 50p.  You are fine to whitelist 50p resolutions for your content.  Adding other resolutions and frame rates isn't a problem if you have other material.

23.976/24p will mean you drop 25p frames, so you will get judder, 29.9/30p means you will repeat 25p frames but not a nice number, so you will get judder.
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(2019-01-02, 11:03)FoxADRIANO Wrote:
(2019-01-02, 04:18)wesk05 Wrote: I have been following your posts and the "troubles" that you are having with nVIDIA Shield. Have you ever considered that this color issue that you have may be a problem of your TV.
 When I watch my videos with the internal TV software I watch videos well. When I use Shield TV I get problems. I don't know my problem.

nogging has jut told I need to choose AUTO Colour Space on Sony UHD TV but I don't see that option.  
 You have a very similar TV to me :

Home->Settings->Display->Picture->Advanced Settings->Video Options

In that menu you should have :
HDR Mode (Auto)     (This lets you manually force HDR10, HLG, SDR=Off etc.)
HDMI Video Range     (Auto) (This lets you manually force Broadcast/Video - 16-235 8-bit/64-940 10-bit - levels or Full/Computer levels - 0-255 or 10-bit equivalent)
Colour Space (Auto)     (This lets you force Rec 709 or Rec 2020 along with other colour spaces/gamuts rather than following the gamut signalled in the HDMI signal or DVB/IP stream)

All of these should be on Auto unless you have a very good reason for them not to be.

If you don't have this menu then your TV may not allow this. (I have a 49XF9005.)
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Unfortunately I see nothing of all that. Yes, I see "Auto" on the Color Space Menu but I don't see anything other options. I chose as "Standard" as "Enhanced format" on HDMI Options but I don't see anything about what you are writing.
Look at the pics:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dkk9ymy84w07sia/1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w5hzt6vw55wg3l5/2.jpg?dl=0
Anyway I keep seeing horrible colors and above all on the green.
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(2019-01-02, 12:49)FoxADRIANO Wrote: Unfortunately I see nothing of all that. Yes, I see "Auto" on the Color Space Menu but I don't see anything other options. I chose as "Standard" as "Enhanced format" on HDMI Options but I don't see anything about what you are writing.
Look at the pics:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dkk9ymy84w07sia/1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w5hzt6vw55wg3l5/2.jpg?dl=0
Anyway I keep seeing horrible colors and above all on the green.

Ah - looks like you don't have the same menu structure as me.  The Colour Space Auto looks to be correct though.

When you say 'horrible colours' - can you post a screen grab to show how horrible they are?   Pictures with regular content and colour bars would be useful - the bars will show us whether you have channel swap issues.
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I will do it but ... I'm sorry, how can I attach colour bars and the screen grab of my TV? I need to photograph my TV with a smartphone. But what should I do to make the color bars appear on the TV? If you mean the screening grab of the monitor of my PC I can do it but it is another and  different thing.

PS: I need to choose "Standard format" on Sony HDMI. Right?
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(2019-01-02, 13:12)FoxADRIANO Wrote: I will do it but ... I'm sorry, how can I attach colour bars and the screen grab of my TV? I need to photograph my TV with a smartphone. But what should I do to make the color bars appear on the TV? If you mean the screening grab of the monitor of my PC I can do it but it is another and  different thing.

PS: I need to choose "Standard format" on Sony HDMI. Right?
 You created a 2160p50 h.264 Rec 709 8-bit file for me with colour bars. Play that on the nVidia Shield TV in Kodi and take a photograph of the screen, or if you are concerned about playback quality in other formats create a colour bar file in that format (1080p50 etc.) 

Also take a picture of it displaying 'real' content ?

As we have discussed offline - Standard vs Enhanced is about whether you output 'Standard' HDMI 1.4 bandwidth 2160p50 content (i.e. 420 8-bit 2160p50) or whether you output 'Enhanced' HDMI 2.0 high-bandwidth 2160p50 content (i.e. 422 12-bit 2160p50 or 444/RGB 8-bit 2160p50)  (Although 420 8-bit 2160p50/60 HDMI output is part of the HDMI 2.0 spec, it is the only 2160p50/60 format that is within HDMI 1.4 bandwidth, and was added so that early HDTVs could handle 2160p50 content with HDMI 1.4 hardware. It's fine for 8-bit SDR - like most UHD DVB-S2 stuff (aka Sky Q in the UK) but isn't suitable for HDR at 2160p50/60)

In our offline discussions you have reported you have problems with Enhanced mode on your Shield TV and Sony TV combination, so you are using Standard right? (This could be a TV compatibility issue or a cable issue).  I do not have those problems so I use Enhanced (my AVR also runs in Enhanced).
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Here is what you asked. The first 2 files are original and I see them very well on my PC monitor.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dbygzia2rypbrz...b.mp4?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xa630d26spg5tp...K.mp4?dl=0
The tests refer to 4K file. With 1080 it is even worse.
If I watch those files on my PC monitor I see them perfectely but with Sony TV I see very bad colours.
This is what I see on my Sony TV:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bxulfvaw7s8b2m...V.mp4?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/au5rhgdvjgi6xw...V.mp4?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cj2xlb69lic905...V.mp4?dl=0
Now I'm using using Standard HDMI.
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(2019-01-02, 16:06)FoxADRIANO Wrote: Here is what you asked. The first 2 files are original and I see them very well on my PC monitor.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dbygzia2rypbrz...b.mp4?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xa630d26spg5tp...K.mp4?dl=0
The tests refer to 4K file. With 1080 it is even worse.
If I watch those files on my PC monitor I see them perfectely but with Sony TV I see very bad colours.
This is what I see on my Sony TV:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bxulfvaw7s8b2m...V.mp4?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/au5rhgdvjgi6xw...V.mp4?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cj2xlb69lic905...V.mp4?dl=0
Now I'm using using Standard HDMI.
It's definitely your TV as the colours are perfect on mine. Just a thought but have you calibrated the colours for different source types?
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