[Lunatixz]

Is there currently (or is there planned) a way to remove pre-defined channels? I get ones showing up which are not terribly useful, because they literally only have one show. The movie ones are great, but for the TV-studio-specific ones, I would love to just be able to hide them and only show ones I curate with smart playlists based on actual network airing.

No, Pre-Defined channels are designed to be a simple, easy and quick way to create Pseudo Channels based on your Kodi content... It's 100% generated from the content on your system. All Genres, Networks, and Studio lists are in the top 25 based on their content type. If your selection is "not terribly useful" then your collection is.... *cough  .

A "Pre-Defined" smartplaylist list; won't be added because there is nothing "Pre-Defined" about a smartplaylist; It's categorized as a "User-Defined" channel. The supplied channel manager is the correct way to add "User-Defined" content.

Yeah, I get how the user-defined stuff works. And it works well for me. I really prefer the more nuanced control, especially because I can avoid weird edge cases. For example, I have a pretty massive collection of retro Nickelodeon content. One of my primary motivations for using PseudoTV Live is to have essentially a "90s Nickelodeon" channel. When I first installed PTVL, it gave me a predefined Nickelodeon channel successfully, which was awesome. But then I also got a weird channel that was literally nothing but Hey Arnold, while Hey Arnold never appeared on the Nickelodeon channel. And then certain classic Nick shows that also aired on a canadian network prior to being (more famously) rebroadcast on Nickelodeon appeared on a PTVL channel for that network instead of the Nick one. So for me, using a smart playlist driven user-defined channel is worth the little bit of extra work.

Incidentally, after asking the question here, I was kind of aimlesssly poking around Kodi and discovered that you can hide ("disable") channels in IPTV Simple. So I can basically get my desired effect! It just has to do with curating the channel list, as opposed to doing anything in PTVL – I guess the only advantage then of doing anything at the add-on level would just be to eliminate the resource usage of maintaining channels that I never want to use. But hopefully that's not much of a theoretical performance difference, even if it were possible.

Now I'm confused... LOL

Why would you want to "disable" a pre-defined channel through IPTV simple and not by de-selecting from the pre-defined list? also, a "weird channel that was literally nothing but Hey Arnold"... ?

FYI, in case you didn't know.... during your initial launch of PseudoTV, You are prompted to "AutoTune" channels. Autotune will take 3 items from each "Pre-Defined" content type ie. (Networks, TV Genres, TV Shows, Movie Genres, Mixed Genres, Movie Studios, Mixed (Other), Music Genres and Recommend Channels) and create channels for you. Needless to say, if you don't have diverse content you might not get 3 channels for each type, and content meant to be network-based may appear show-based.

Your "Hey Arnold" channel sounds like a "TV Show" type channel or the only content for a particular network and or genre type.... if you no longer want it, you can remove it by going to "AutoTune" and de-selecting the channel. The channel name and group type will yield the list the channel originated from

another FYI the Genre, Network, Studio meta is provided by you and your Kodi library; if you disagree with it or it is incorrect you can correct it anytime. This data is not unique to PseudoTV; it's collected from Kodi meta. = )

There is no need to maintain channels you do not want... enjoy!

[the_3]

Now I'm confused... LOL

Why would you want to "disable" a pre-defined channel through IPTV simple and not by de-selecting from the pre-defined list?

Haha, no, now I AM confused 😂

I wouldn't! My original question was intended to be exactly this – whether or not it was possible to disable pre-defined channels. And when you replied saying "no," I just poked around until I found an alternate solution through IPTV simple. So there *is* a way, separate from the channel manager (which doesn't seem to do it)?

[Lunatixz]

Now I'm confused... LOL

Why would you want to "disable" a pre-defined channel through IPTV simple and not by de-selecting from the pre-defined list?

Haha, no, now I AM confused 😂

I wouldn't! My original question was intended to be exactly this – whether or not it was possible to disable pre-defined channels. And when you replied saying "no," I just poked around until I found an alternate solution through IPTV simple. So there *is* a way, separate from the channel manager (which doesn't seem to do it)?

My bad I took your original query as can I replace the Predefined list with my own smart playlists.

[the_3]

No problem, I probably wasn't as detailed as I should have been.

After digging through your settings further, I now see how to deselect pre-defined channels, so that's cool. And one mystery solved! One of the predefined channel types is "TV show," and Hey Arnold was one of the three selected, so I guess that's why I had a channel that was nothing but episodes of that. But poking around here did make me notice something else interesting: for each of the predefined categories, the instructions say to select "one or more" items within the category. Is one a hard lower bound intentionally? Like, each of the predefined categories seems to have three default selections (at least for me), and I am easily able to deselect. But I never seem to be able to completely eliminate that predefined category. The last one always remains, even if I deselect it.

Also, completely unrelated question as I continue to play around with this (sidebar: THANK YOU for making this, your work is absolutely brilliant). Is there a cap on how many items can be pulled from a smart playlist into a user-defined channel that is pointing to it? Just curious, because anecdotally, it really seems that my user-defined 90s Nickelodeon channel isn't pulling from the full set of episodes in the smart playlist. I have about 17 TV shows that comprise the relevant smart playlist, but the user-defined channel based on the playlist seems to only ever want to play episodes of about half of them. I totally expect some degree of imbalance in the distribution (hoping that this will eventually improve with advanced channel rules) given that some of the shows have far more episodes than others. But I see episodes of a show with only one 13 episode season with some regularity, and yet have yet to see an episode appear – even looking ahead on the guide – for another with over 120 episodes.

[Kalynncampbell]

If you all want to have some fun, try this: M3U and full XML TV guide

2. Save Everything and document it so you’re sure you’ve entered all your correct info.

3. Check, did it REALLY actually import your XML Guide? At all? Yeah, I’ve been ASSURED that it does, yet not a single version has successfully maintained an import yet, and the CURRENT version not only won’t import your guide info, it will actually DELETE the file/url information you entered in settings and overwrite it like you didn’t even try to import.

There’s no question here, it’s a black and white thing that, according to the dev this is “already working”, I think everyone should try it for themselves and see exactly how “working” it is for themselves (as everytime I’ve searched for the issue it’s ignored and or said to be working)

Source: three different installs on three different machines. Enter m3u/xml and watch it fail to import (or even save the file/url at all) with no success.

PS: If anyone needs a workaround feel free to let me know, it’s tedious but will actually get it working, currently writing an automated script to prevent PseudoTV from overwriting settings on it AND SimpleClient and then using a parser to combine the PseudoTV user channels/Autotune channels (the only things that actually work in this scenario) with your actual URL based TV Guide. Am currently trying to incorporate it into a custom “fork” of this thing to release since the issue is never addressed, but the parser script will need to be rewritten into Python instead of running as an external batch program triggered by Kodi’s AEL.

PPS: If anyone has any issues with that, please cite the CONCRETE black and white issue that is untrue and I’ll be happy to provide video evidence of my statements and direct you to a YouTube playlist showing the... progress.

[Lunatixz]

If you all want to have some fun, try this: M3U and full XML TV guide

2. Save Everything and document it so you’re sure you’ve entered all your correct info.

3. Check, did it REALLY actually import your XML Guide? At all? Yeah, I’ve been ASSURED that it does, yet not a single version has successfully maintained an import yet, and the CURRENT version not only won’t import your guide info, it will actually DELETE the file/url information you entered in settings and overwrite it like you didn’t even try to import.

There’s no question here, it’s a black and white thing that, according to the dev this is “already working”, I think everyone should try it for themselves and see exactly how “working” it is for themselves (as everytime I’ve searched for the issue it’s ignored and or said to be working)

Source: three different installs on three different machines. Enter m3u/xml and watch it fail to import (or even save the file/url at all) with no success.

PS: If anyone needs a workaround feel free to let me know, it’s tedious but will actually get it working, currently writing an automated script to prevent PseudoTV from overwriting settings on it AND SimpleClient and then using a parser to combine the PseudoTV user channels/Autotune channels (the only things that actually work in this scenario) with your actual URL based TV Guide. Am currently trying to incorporate it into a custom “fork” of this thing to release since the issue is never addressed, but the parser script will need to be rewritten into Python instead of running as an external batch program triggered by Kodi’s AEL.

PPS: If anyone has any issues with that, please cite the CONCRETE black and white issue that is untrue and I’ll be happy to provide video evidence of my statements and direct you to a YouTube playlist showing the... progress.

I really don't understand your hostility... If you are having an issue supply a log.

Importing M3U/XMLTV should be working... Any bugs encountered requires a detail description of the problem and a log.

Perhaps someone else could do better to explain how to setup imports?

PLS supply me with an example m3u/xmltv pair you are trying to import and a debug log, THX

[Lunatixz]

No problem, I probably wasn't as detailed as I should have been.

After digging through your settings further, I now see how to deselect pre-defined channels, so that's cool. And one mystery solved! One of the predefined channel types is "TV show," and Hey Arnold was one of the three selected, so I guess that's why I had a channel that was nothing but episodes of that. But poking around here did make me notice something else interesting: for each of the predefined categories, the instructions say to select "one or more" items within the category. Is one a hard lower bound intentionally? Like, each of the predefined categories seems to have three default selections (at least for me), and I am easily able to deselect. But I never seem to be able to completely eliminate that predefined category. The last one always remains, even if I deselect it.

Also, completely unrelated question as I continue to play around with this (sidebar: THANK YOU for making this, your work is absolutely brilliant). Is there a cap on how many items can be pulled from a smart playlist into a user-defined channel that is pointing to it? Just curious, because anecdotally, it really seems that my user-defined 90s Nickelodeon channel isn't pulling from the full set of episodes in the smart playlist. I have about 17 TV shows that comprise the relevant smart playlist, but the user-defined channel based on the playlist seems to only ever want to play episodes of about half of them. I totally expect some degree of imbalance in the distribution (hoping that this will eventually improve with advanced channel rules) given that some of the shows have far more episodes than others. But I see episodes of a show with only one 13 episode season with some regularity, and yet have yet to see an episode appear – even looking ahead on the guide – for another with over 120 episodes.

You can select one or more from the list. No limits, you can deselect all of them. Sounds like you encountered a possible bug; however, I was unable to reproduce it in v.0.2.8e. I'll need a log the next time you have this problem.

There is no limit cap for Kodi's VFS... The only thing you need to do is set your playlist to limit '0' UNLIMITED. PseudoTV handles the rest.

[jctennis]

M3U importing seems to be all fixed. I had no trouble with either importing or Guide data on the latest build! Channels made with custom playlists are working well too. Can't wait for the advanced channel rules.

[jctennis]

I just noticed that PTVL no longer seems to be pulling channel logos from the logo folder in cache. Did this change in the 0.2.8 branch or is this unexpected and will need a log? I am able to manually assign them per channel but in the past I used to just toss them in the folder and PTVL would pick them up automatically.

[Lunatixz]

I just noticed that PTVL no longer seems to be pulling channel logos from the logo folder in cache. Did this change in the 0.2.8 branch or is this unexpected and will need a log? I am able to manually assign them per channel but in the past I used to just toss them in the folder and PTVL would pick them up automatically.

Did you recently change your centralized file location? this changes the 'cache' path. I'm working on a proper "Export" script to handle the location change, for now you have to manually move the files.

[jctennis]

I just noticed that PTVL no longer seems to be pulling channel logos from the logo folder in cache. Did this change in the 0.2.8 branch or is this unexpected and will need a log? I am able to manually assign them per channel but in the past I used to just toss them in the folder and PTVL would pick them up automatically.

Did you recently change your centralized file location? this changes the 'cache' path. I'm working on a proper "Export" script to handle the location change, for now you have to manually move the files.

I have not. Everything related to that is set to default

[Lunatixz]

I just noticed that PTVL no longer seems to be pulling channel logos from the logo folder in cache. Did this change in the 0.2.8 branch or is this unexpected and will need a log? I am able to manually assign them per channel but in the past I used to just toss them in the folder and PTVL would pick them up automatically.

Did you recently change your centralized file location? this changes the 'cache' path. I'm working on a proper "Export" script to handle the location change, for now you have to manually move the files.

I have not. Everything related to that is set to default

Okay, I'll look into it.

[jctennis]

I had another issue. Sometime during the night PTVL ate my custom channels again. I had 15 set up and the settings were showing 15 but when I opened the guide there were only 2 autotuned channels I had.Not even the Hdhomerun simple or pluto tv imports were showing in the guide. I tried restoring a channel backup and that just threw up an error.

I have a log but I don't know how useful it will be. I turned logging on after the channels already disappeared. I did try and run the restore backup while the logging was enabled though.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FWk36oA...p=drivesdk

I will be in and out most of the day today, but if you need me to do anything specific to help get you more information, let me know. I have no idea how to reproduce the channels disappearing other than waiting though.

[Lunatixz]

I had another issue. Sometime during the night PTVL ate my custom channels again. I had 15 set up and the settings were showing 15 but when I opened the guide there were only 2 autotuned channels I had.Not even the Hdhomerun simple or pluto tv imports were showing in the guide. I tried restoring a channel backup and that just threw up an error.

I have a log but I don't know how useful it will be. I turned logging on after the channels already disappeared. I did try and run the restore backup while the logging was enabled though.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FWk36oA...p=drivesdk

I will be in and out most of the day today, but if you need me to do anything specific to help get you more information, let me know. I have no idea how to reproduce the channels disappearing other than waiting though.

Log doesn't have any channels removed, Can you send me the log prior to this one?

[jctennis]

Log doesn't have any channels removed, Can you send me the log prior to this one?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FlGLHVp...p=drivesdk although I didn't have debug on for this one