[pszab]

Is it enough to run a Kodi under windows 10?
How strong is it compared an Intel apu? Which intel is the closest to this?
Is it a competitor of the intel sticks? Ok, those are $100 around but is it worth for $35 w/o storage. HTPC point of view... of course.
Thanks

[noggin]

Will this now support bitstreaming TrueHD and DTS-HD-MA? Half of me hopes not as just bought a Zotac bi320!!

Don't think we can say for sure. However it wouldn't surprise me if the same limitations apply - which means 5.1 PCM 48kHz but not 5.1 PCM 192kHz (only 2.0 PCM 192kHz). This is due to a bandwidth limit which also stops DTS HD and Dolby True HD being bitstreamed.

Realtime Dolby True HD decode to 5.1 PCM 48kHz may well be possible with the extra CPU power (True HD can be decoded in ffmpeg and thus Kodi I believe) AIUI DTS HD isn't decodable via Open Source (though you can decode to FLAC 5.1 on a PC with the right dll) so it isn't a total dead loss if you are happy with uncompressed 5.1 in 48kHz.

The BI320 will also do a very nice 1080/50i VAAPI MCDI deinterlace - the 2955U/2957U are still an amazing Kodi solution.

[noggin]

Is it enough to run a Kodi under windows 10?
How strong is it compared an Intel apu? Which intel is the closest to this?
Thanks

Hold your horses! We haven't even seen Windows on this box yet. We haven't seen what Windows 10 on an ARM looks like properly - and don't know what the IoT version of it will offer.

I suspect any Kodi build for Windows 10 on the ARM Pi 2 will need a significant rebuild - particularly if it only supports Modern UI (like Windows RT on ARM did)

[memeka]

Yeah - i had Amd Fusion hardware (E series) for 2 years at home, without capable software, without capable SDK ... and never got it running fine. Since that day I never buy hardware that could get "eventual" support, but only stuff that is working right now (from an end customer point of view)

In the 35 dollar market - one does want to use the hw right now as is and here the odroid has a long way to go until only nearly feature level as the pi.

Edit: As dev, playing with toys is fun - but fun stops in the living room, when the family is not amused :-)

Exactly. I had the same experience with the Odroid U2. It was going to be 'amazing'. It never really was...

Erm, Odroid U2 currently has hw video decoding (except HEVC), open-elec builds, CEC support, runs ppsspp emulation at full-speed, plays video hw accelerated in many X11 players with gstreamer support ... has 3D acceleration under fbdev and x11...

[noggin]

Yeah - i had Amd Fusion hardware (E series) for 2 years at home, without capable software, without capable SDK ... and never got it running fine. Since that day I never buy hardware that could get "eventual" support, but only stuff that is working right now (from an end customer point of view)

In the 35 dollar market - one does want to use the hw right now as is and here the odroid has a long way to go until only nearly feature level as the pi.

Edit: As dev, playing with toys is fun - but fun stops in the living room, when the family is not amused :-)

Exactly. I had the same experience with the Odroid U2. It was going to be 'amazing'. It never really was...

Erm, Odroid U2 currently has hw video decoding (except HEVC), open-elec builds, CEC support, runs ppsspp emulation at full-speed, plays video hw accelerated in many X11 players as well with gstreamer support ... has 3G acceleration under fbdev and x11...

How is refresh rate switching (including 23.976Hz) and de-interlacing? They were the main issues for me.

[jjd-uk]

Since ODROID-C1 is built on Amlogic S805 its optimized for video playback just on most Amlogic hardware, and support HEVC / H.265 and VP9 decoding, and they have not restricted hardware video decoding for any codecs in their firmwares like on Raspberry Pi. ODROID-C1 hardware also have integrated RTC (Real-Time Clock) on-board, DDR3 RAM, and features native Gigabit Ethernet, plus fast eMMC storage option as well as micro SD card. Even though ODROID-C1 only have Quad-Core Cortex-A5 CPU, on paper running at @ 1500 Mhz by default it should outperform the new Raspberry Pi 2 Model B even if it was overclocked to 1200Mhz. And yes ODROID-C1 does have compatibility libraries for Raspberry Pi software/script and GPIO hardware too.

Hardkernel have full source code is accessible via our Github and a fairly good sized open source community too for their ODROID series, however not as large as community as the Raspberry Pi.

ODROID-C1 maybe optimised for video playback and looks great hardware wise, however it's not optimised for Kodi and it will be more difficult to do than for the RPi 2. The difference is we have Popcornmix as a dev with direct links to the RPi foundation with full access to what's required to optimise Kodi, and while Amlogic is one of the more open ARM SoC manufacturers and works with the open source communities, they just don't offer the same level of access, so Amlogic builds will never be as optimised as what can be done for the RPi.

[Sniffer77]

As a general recommendation, get a USB WiFI that operates in the 5Ghz band otherwise you will get interference with a 2.4Ghz one from any nearby Microwave oven when its operating.
A dual band one is even better.

http://elinux.org/RPi_USB_Wi-Fi_Adapters

This is now the Rolls Royce of microSDHC cards for the RPi B+/2
https://www.modmypi.com/samsung-8gb-sd-c...n-linux-os

Cheaper older model here:
https://www.modmypi.com/noobs-pre-loaded...-8gb-micro

Thanks for your help , will read up later and get them ordered.

[pszab]

Hold your horses! We haven't even seen Windows on this box yet. We haven't seen what Windows 10 on an ARM looks like properly - and don't know what the IoT version of it will offer.

I suspect any Kodi build for Windows 10 on the ARM Pi 2 will need a significant rebuild - particularly if it only supports Modern UI (like Windows RT on ARM did)

OK, I try to hold them. But how could it be strong to compare to any Intel tablet apus (stick solutions)?
Btw, $35 is not so cheap if there isn't wifi, storage, a/v decode/format limitations.

[Belic]

As a general recommendation, get a USB WiFI that operates in the 5Ghz band otherwise you will get interference with a 2.4Ghz one from any nearby Microwave oven when its operating.
A dual band one is even better.

http://elinux.org/RPi_USB_Wi-Fi_Adapters

This is now the Rolls Royce of microSDHC cards for the RPi B+/2
https://www.modmypi.com/samsung-8gb-sd-c...n-linux-os

Cheaper older model here:
https://www.modmypi.com/noobs-pre-loaded...-8gb-micro

Do you know if there is any 12-16gig Noobs card?

BR
Belic

[memeka]

Exactly. I had the same experience with the Odroid U2. It was going to be 'amazing'. It never really was...

Erm, Odroid U2 currently has hw video decoding (except HEVC), open-elec builds, CEC support, runs ppsspp emulation at full-speed, plays video hw accelerated in many X11 players as well with gstreamer support ... has 3G acceleration under fbdev and x11...

How is refresh rate switching (including 23.976Hz) and de-interlacing? They were the main issues for me.

Well, either my library has none of those, or they work well. I am using sickbeard and have a quite big library of shows. .. around 400 movies .. they all work well.
You can change the desktop resolution in X11 directly from the normal ubuntu settings, to (1080p/720p/some more resolutions) and 50Hz/60Hz - it has xrandr support - so I guess that means rate switching is ok? I use live tv with tvheadend, all ok. Don't know de-interlacing where it's used.

[pszab]

Odroid C1 vs Pi2

[PantsOnFire]

The new pi looks to be like the same dimensions, do we know if the old cases can be used?

[prawnee]

I certainly know the pi bow cases for the B+ will fit.

http://shop.pimoroni.com/collections/pibow

[wrxtasy]

Do you know if there is any 12-16gig Noobs card?

https://www.modmypi.com/samsung-16gb-sd-...gb%20noobs

[Belic]

Do you know if there is any 12-16gig Noobs card?

https://www.modmypi.com/samsung-16gb-sd-...gb%20noobs

You are the best! Thanks for the tip and all your great job in hardware section!