WeTek Core (24p HD Netflix / HD Audio / Lollipop / OpenELEC / 4K / HEVC)
(2015-11-29, 19:11)Gmjh Wrote: Ok thanks noggin. I'm going to try and condense all this. I thought you were saying earlier that a 24hz picture on a 60hz screen is simply not possible under any conditions as 24 does not'fit' into 60.
No - I was saying it isn't possible to watch a 24Hz picture at 60Hz without having 3:2.

Many modern TV screens don't have a fixed refresh rate, they are able to show a number of different refresh rates, rather than having to convert all their inputs to a single refresh rate. However there ARE TVs that only run at 60Hz refresh, and they do add 3:2 to 24p inputs. However other sets will happily display 60Hz at 60Hz, 50Hz at 50Hz and 24Hz at 48Hz (or in some cases 72Hz), without needing 100/120Hz processing.

Quote:I think what you're actually saying, and wrxstasy is saying, is that it is possible as long as you have something like real cinema or cinema mode which will then show a simple 24hz picture.

Yes - though it may well be showing the 24Hz source at 48Hz (i.e. showing every frame twice) as that is a closer frame rate to 50 and 60Hz than 24Hz is (so it makes other processing easier)

Quote:My tv , when pressing the'info' button on the tv remote shows that it is displaying kodi at 24hz (when adjust refresh rate is selected in kodi) I really should have mentioned that earlier.
Some TVs display their INPUT frame rate, not their display frame rate. My 40W4000 said 1080/24p on-screen but I'm pretty certain it was running 48Hz not 24Hz (I had a discussions with the product manager at Sony in Basingstoke in the UK when I bought it as there was an issue they wanted to help me with)

I have a cheap 22" bedroom TV that says "1080/24p" when it is fed a 24p input - but still adds 3:2 pulldown (It's that display I use sync playback to display on to watch 24p content sped up to 25p and displayed 50Hz with 2:2)

Quote:So if I've finally understood you both correctly my tv *is* showing a true 24hz picture. And in that case I can get a wetek core as it will show 24p at 23.976. I really hope that I've understood this correctly as I'm losing the will to live and you and wrxstasy probably are too Big Grin

I'd say it is correctly showing your 24p picture without 3:2 pulldown. Not sure I'd go as far to say "true 24Hz" as I suspect it will be a 2:2 48Hz or 3:3 72Hz, and thus look very nice and smooth and much nicer than 3:2 cadence content. I may be wrong - but native display of 24Hz is rare. In cinemas they double or triple shutter (refreshing at 48 or 72Hz) as well.

I'm sensitive to 3:2. The opening 20th/21st Century Fox animation on a Blu-ray at 3:2 depresses me greatly - I can instantly spot the judder.
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RE: WeTek Core 4K - by wesk05 - 2015-09-15, 08:36
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by Skank - 2015-09-15, 09:59
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by droidelec - 2015-09-18, 18:11
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by movie78 - 2015-09-18, 18:18
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by wesk05 - 2015-09-18, 19:02
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by looun - 2015-09-18, 22:58
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by wesk05 - 2015-09-18, 23:39
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by BORIStheBLADE - 2015-09-19, 00:56
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by SilverBlade - 2015-09-19, 02:43
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by noggin - 2015-09-19, 11:13
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by wesk05 - 2015-09-19, 20:13
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by movie78 - 2015-09-19, 23:21
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by wrxtasy - 2015-10-05, 06:48
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by tomvs123 - 2015-10-09, 23:15
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by wrxtasy - 2015-10-10, 02:55
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by tomvs123 - 2015-10-10, 04:19
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by noggin - 2015-10-10, 10:15
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by wrxtasy - 2015-10-13, 11:27
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by couto27 - 2015-10-13, 12:40
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by wrxtasy - 2015-10-13, 14:33
WeTek Core 4K - by tredman - 2015-10-13, 13:57
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by hdmkv - 2015-10-13, 14:02
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by tomvs123 - 2015-10-13, 14:04
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by wrxtasy - 2015-10-13, 15:20
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by hdmkv - 2015-10-13, 15:54
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by wrxtasy - 2015-10-13, 17:00
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by gredawarha - 2015-10-13, 15:06
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by wrxtasy - 2015-10-13, 15:57
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by vineet381 - 2015-10-13, 15:23
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by tredman - 2015-10-13, 15:27
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by gredawarha - 2015-10-13, 15:29
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by vineet381 - 2015-10-13, 15:44
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by gredawarha - 2015-10-13, 16:53
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by Atinkler - 2015-10-13, 17:04
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by wrxtasy - 2015-10-13, 17:38
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by hdmkv - 2015-10-13, 17:06
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by zag - 2015-10-13, 17:06
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by hdmkv - 2015-10-13, 17:10
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by Atinkler - 2015-10-13, 17:43
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by wrxtasy - 2015-10-13, 17:56
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by Atinkler - 2015-10-13, 18:06
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by hdmkv - 2015-10-13, 17:44
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by droidelec - 2015-10-13, 17:50
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by wrxtasy - 2015-10-15, 05:56
RE: WeTek Core 4K - by mwake - 2015-11-25, 14:56
RE: WeTek Core (24p HD Netflix / Android Lollipop / OpenELEC / 4K) - by noggin - 2015-11-29, 20:06
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