2015-11-29, 19:00
Does any body know the Samsung's equivalent of "cinema mode" just trying to work out if my tv can do that...model eh5300 series..
(2015-11-29, 19:00)mwake Wrote: Does any body know the Samsung's equivalent of "cinema mode" just trying to work out if my tv can do that...model eh5300 series..
(2015-11-29, 19:26)wrxtasy Wrote: I've been eating Red Snakes so still have my sugar rush going !
Its all a learning process.
Just looked up the Tech Specs of your TV and these are the applicable WeTek Core compatible refresh rates it supports:
23.97/24/29.976/30/50/59.94/60Hz
So as you've have concluded with 24p Real Cinema on the LG TV you have you will be fine to get smooth 24p video playback
(2015-11-29, 17:43)wrxtasy Wrote: Will give this a test run tomorrow CT, now that I'm back on my feet and feeling human again. It might fix my Android NFS > Kodi > Mac sharing issues hopefully.
DiskStation> exportfs -v
/volume1/Portage
192.168.0.0/24(rw,async,insecure,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check,insecure_locks,anonuid=1025,anongid=100,sec=sys,rw,no_root_squash,no_all_squash)
(2015-11-29, 19:11)Gmjh Wrote: Ok thanks noggin. I'm going to try and condense all this. I thought you were saying earlier that a 24hz picture on a 60hz screen is simply not possible under any conditions as 24 does not'fit' into 60.No - I was saying it isn't possible to watch a 24Hz picture at 60Hz without having 3:2.
Quote:I think what you're actually saying, and wrxstasy is saying, is that it is possible as long as you have something like real cinema or cinema mode which will then show a simple 24hz picture.
Quote:My tv , when pressing the'info' button on the tv remote shows that it is displaying kodi at 24hz (when adjust refresh rate is selected in kodi) I really should have mentioned that earlier.Some TVs display their INPUT frame rate, not their display frame rate. My 40W4000 said 1080/24p on-screen but I'm pretty certain it was running 48Hz not 24Hz (I had a discussions with the product manager at Sony in Basingstoke in the UK when I bought it as there was an issue they wanted to help me with)
Quote:So if I've finally understood you both correctly my tv *is* showing a true 24hz picture. And in that case I can get a wetek core as it will show 24p at 23.976. I really hope that I've understood this correctly as I'm losing the will to live and you and wrxstasy probably are too
(2015-11-29, 19:26)wrxtasy Wrote: I've been eating Red Snakes so still have my sugar rush going !
Its all a learning process.
Just looked up the Tech Specs of your TV and these are the applicable WeTek Core compatible refresh rates it supports:
23.97/24/29.976/30/50/59.94/60Hz
So as you've have concluded with 24p Real Cinema on the LG TV you have you will be fine to get smooth 24p video playback
(2015-11-29, 20:35)Gmjh Wrote: God no. So I've no idea if the lg tv is actually showing 3:2 pulldown or not? I really wouldn't know and my eyes won't tell me as I've no other real point of reference. My idea of smooth might be your idea of judder. Surely there has to be some way of knowing what it's actually outputting? It seems crazy not to be able to know what the tv is actually producing in hz .Surely when I ask my tv what it's showing via the info button and it says 24hz then it's just 24hz.
(2015-11-29, 19:25)Gmjh Wrote:Thanks for the info [SMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES](2015-11-29, 19:00)mwake Wrote: Does any body know the Samsung's equivalent of "cinema mode" just trying to work out if my tv can do that...model eh5300 series..
Most samsung models use something called cinema smooth. Your tv uses something called "film mode" and is described in the manual as "processes film signals from all sources automatically and adjusts the picture for optimum quality." This is different from movie mode which the manual says simply adjusts the lighting. Edit : Actually scratch that, your tv manual shows that it has cinema smooth too.
(2015-11-30, 02:47)noggin Wrote:(2015-11-29, 20:35)Gmjh Wrote: God no. So I've no idea if the lg tv is actually showing 3:2 pulldown or not? I really wouldn't know and my eyes won't tell me as I've no other real point of reference. My idea of smooth might be your idea of judder. Surely there has to be some way of knowing what it's actually outputting? It seems crazy not to be able to know what the tv is actually producing in hz .Surely when I ask my tv what it's showing via the info button and it says 24hz then it's just 24hz.
That depends whether the info button is telling you what it's input is or what it's output is. Chances are it's telling you the input - as it's unlikely it's display 24p inputs at 24Hz...
If you aren't sensitive to 3:2 - and it sounds like you aren't if you haven't noticed it - then why worry? If you are happy with your TV then you're happy with it. If you aren't - then you aren't.
I wasn't happy with mine so I replaced it.
Suspect the chances are your LG is displaying 24p sources at a nice symmetric multiple so isn't using 3:2. However my point is that just because a TV says "24p" on it's OSD it doesn't mean it isn't displaying 24p with 3:2, it's usually an indication of the input format NOT the output format.
For instance my UHD set will happily trigger Frame Rate Interpolation and make 24p film sources look like video (aka the Soap Opera Effect) but it still says 1080/24p on the OSD, even though it is probably doing something like a 1080/60p or 1080/120p interpolated output (this isn't 3:2 or 5:5 - it's making up frames in between to smooth out the motion and make everything look it was shot at 60fps or higher) Of course I disabled this as soon as I bought the TV - as I hate artificial processing of pictures. But other people love it...