[brazen1]

I didn't ask anything about madVR, exclusive mode, etc. I have all that proper and working as well as it can which is good enough to get by but not as it should be. I asked if you turn on Windows HDR, is the desktop presentable? I don't care about madVR and pumping it. I use madVR. Is it the answer? No. Does it produce enough of a picture to get by? Yes. MadVR does not put the display in native HDR mode. It either bypasses it (in which case you have to manually enable Windows Native HDR) or converts to SDR. Converting to SDR does not enable HDR. You can go look at your settings and see if contrast is even bumped up. It isn't. You have to do that manually too which wipes out your calibrations for non-hdr stuff. Of course everything will have improvements in the coming months or years. In the mean time, enabling native HDR answers all the quirks. We just need a shortcut for it so it can be added to scripts and automate everything. If MS comes out with calibrations so it's desktop friendly when enabled, great. We won't need shortcuts. I'm not holding my breath to find out. I'm also not spending more and more money every time I turn around. As it stands, everything is perfect using older equipment except that damn HDR switch shortcut. Until then, I'll continue manually enabling it when needed which actually puts my display into true native HDR mode retaining calibrations for that mode and all the others. Lastly, Kodi will need to implement UHD playback in order to even start to take advantage of HDR using it's internal player. Until ripping is tackled, no one has interest imo. I've read a few things here and there. Maybe v.18 will address? The few times I've loaded it, it didn't work for me. Thanks for the input.