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Intel Gemini Lake
I've tried HibyMusic but it doesn't stream from a NAS, just tried Neutron Player which confused me and appears to only stream from FTP. Neither can find my DLNA server nor allow me to add a SMB location. 

I'd rather just go with the Intel NUC option if it can satisfy those requirements I listed, a Windows OS is simply easier to use, less bugs, can play more formats and none of these settings reset each time I change firmware.
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Looks like the final word from Intel is that neither the J4005 NOR the J5005 will support HDR.  This was confirmed by Lon Seidman on his Lon.TV youtube channel where he reviewed a NUC7CJYH with the J4005.  He recently did a video about this in his Weekly Wrapup 195 video.  This is EXTREMELY disappointing, as I was really holding out for this product.  I guess I'll have to wait even longer for the 8th gen i3 or i5 NUC to come out.  More waiting Sad
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(2018-04-10, 16:52)Dan-HTPC Wrote: Looks like the final word from Intel is that neither the J4005 NOR the J5005 will support HDR.  This was confirmed by Lon Seidman on his Lon.TV youtube channel where he reviewed a NUC7CJYH with the J4005.  He recently did a video about this in his Weekly Wrapup 195 video.  This is EXTREMELY disappointing, as I was really holding out for this product.  I guess I'll have to wait even longer for the 8th gen i3 or i5 NUC to come out.  More waiting Sad

In the same boat - but as far as I see it, there’s still limited support for hdr in Linux, so I’m probably better off waiting until that comes (or gets better) before buying something that may or may not work in the future.

Even on windows, nuc hdr support doesn’t sound great.
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The 8G NUC with i7 uses integrated Vega GPU and supports HDR but it's overkill for HTPC.
I keep my hopes up for AMD V1605B solution, on paper it looks like best coming alternative.
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The ironic thing is that I still only have a 1080p Plasma set, but I just don't want to have to buy another HTPC once I eventually get a 4K OLED with HDR.  It doesn't make sense to spend money on an HTPC that I will likely be upgrading again within a year.
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https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27680

Intel released new 24.20.100.6025 driver.
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(2018-04-27, 23:51)HDGMA Wrote: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27680

Intel released new 24.20.100.6025 driver.
Guess it still doesn't enable HDR on Gemini... Sad
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How do you know?
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Intel has said over and over and over there's no HDR. Not sure why people are holding onto this hope, waiting on every driver update. 



You guys believe the earth is flat as well?
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Because it seems that it would have no technical obstacle and only depends on Intels intention. Rather unlikely to happen yes, but I won't close off the possibility totally that it would happen like some kind of little surprise -by the means of Intels good discretion-. And why does one complain anyway regarding others hopes and expectations?
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(2018-05-02, 08:23)Mount81 Wrote: Because it seems that it would have no technical obstacle and only depends on Intels intention. Rather unlikely to happen yes, but I won't close off the possibility totally that it would happen like some kind of little surprise -by the means of Intels good discretion-. And why does one complain anyway regarding others hopes and expectations?
 Yep - if you can decode 10-bit HEVC at 2160p, and output it cleanly at 10-bit 2160p as a minimum, then the only difference between UHD SDR and UHD HDR playback support is insertion of a couple of bits of metadata into the HDMI stream to flag an HDR EOTF and send some max/average light level numbers to the display.  That's literally all it is.  If you want - you can get round this by using an HDFury Vertex or similar to insert HDR metadata and flags into the HDMI signal downstream of the source, or if you are happy to ignore max/average light metadata, on some TVs you can manually enable HDR10 mode. My Sony lets you do this, as well as manually forcing HLG.

HOWEVER - if you have to offer SDR->HDR conversion (so SDR video, and SDR apps work properly on a desktop when running in HDR output mode) then you need to do some tone-mapping processing, and presumably this is slightly non-trivial in a windowed environment?  I wonder if Intel base their HDR support on whether this can be delivered on a specific SoC.  Or is it more likely to be (as we all thought was the case with 3D) just a market segmentation thing, with HDR seen as a 'premium' feature?
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Intel originally advertised HDR in some of its Gemini Lake material and confirmed it in the community forum.

They then decide to pull the plug and state no it isnt capable of HDR.

What a pack of charlatans.

Reminds me of the hdmi Audio passthrough issue which was later resolved on some nucs

I emailed Asrock regarding the j5005 and they said the hardware was capable but required intel to produced the drivers.
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(2018-05-02, 10:15)noggin Wrote:
(2018-05-02, 08:23)Mount81 Wrote: Because it seems that it would have no technical obstacle and only depends on Intels intention. Rather unlikely to happen yes, but I won't close off the possibility totally that it would happen like some kind of little surprise -by the means of Intels good discretion-. And why does one complain anyway regarding others hopes and expectations?
  Or is it more likely to be (as we all thought was the case with 3D) just a market segmentation thing, with HDR seen as a 'premium' feature? 
 I think intel has made it very clear that this is a market segmentation feature. If you want hdr, spend more on an i3(they aren't very expensive).
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Hi.

i3, does this have to use the LSPCON chip as its not capable of native 2.0 HDMI unlike gemini lake ?

Do you need to pay extra for DP cable ?

Which i3 would you recommend ? And which itx motherboard ?
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(2018-05-02, 20:47)Daveydguk Wrote: Hi.

i3, does this have to use the LSPCON chip as its not capable of native 2.0 HDMI unlike gemini lake ?

Do you need to pay extra for DP cable ?

Which i3 would you recommend ? And which itx motherboard ?
 All current i3 (and all Core CPUs) must use the LSPCON chip with HDMI 2.0 as this is an IGP limitation.

Maybe worth to wait to the next gen i3 release with presumably a new IGP that supports native HDMI 2.0a.
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