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2018 - Amazon Fire TV Stick 4K
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WRXTASY EDIT...

(updated 1st Nov 2018)

How to install sideloaded apps like Kodi on the Amazon Fire TV Cube, Box, or Stick (click)
and then there is this additional Addon...
Update and install Kodi Nightlies, Releases, Snapshots & Testbuilds..

AFTVNews - Fire TV Stick 4K Benchmarks — The most powerful streaming device in Amazon’s lineup (click)

Click HERE for a great detailed Techhive review.







2018 FireTV Stick 4K Tech Specs (click):

  • SoC - Mediatek MTK8695 + MT7668
  • CPU - ARM A53 Quad Core 1.7GHz
  • GPU - Imagination Technologies Power VR GE8300 (Click)
  • RAM - 1.5GB DDR4
  • Storage - 8GB NAND Flash
  • Fire OS 6 — Based on Android 7.1 (API level 25)
  • WiFi - Dual-band, dual-antenna Wi-Fi supports 2x2 MIMO 802.11a/b/g/n/ac - MediaTek MT7668 (click)
  • Bluetooth 5.0 + LE (Low Energy)
  • Micro USB 2.0 for power or optional 100Mbit Amazon Ethernet Adapter (not-included)
  • Ugreen USB3 > Gigabit adapter confirmed working with an micro USB/power OTG cable (click)
  • 4K DolbyVision, HDR10, HLG, HDR10+ capable for Prime Video & Netflix at this stage (No DV for Kodi - ever)
  • Dolby Audio Licenced that is properly implemented to downmix/remix audio into 2.0 / 5.1 - DD / DD+
  • Dolby Atmos (lossy) support for some copy protected streaming Apps.
  • Colorspace switching between SDR, HDR10, and DolbyVision.
  • Reports so far.... (31 Oct 2018)
  • DolbyVision from Prime Video, Netflix, Hulu and sideloaded VUDU Apps.
  • Lossy - Dolby Atmos audio when using Prime Video App.
  • Auto Frame Rate matching reported working with Prime Video, Plex, MrMC & Kodi Leia (Not Netflix)
  • With Kodi Leia - lossy DTS & DD / DD+ will be passed thru...and....
  • 7.1 Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA will be decoded to 7.1 LPCM audio and output
  • (hint - set Kodi audio channels 7.1 and disable those Kodi HD audio options)
  • MIMO AC WiFi speeds when used with compatible MIMO AC router equiptment is very good. Reportedly - good enough for 4K Bluray Rips.

Bang for the buck is really high with this $49.99 FireTV Stick, if you do not need lossless Bluray Atmos Rips audio passthrough.

It's very early days and it remains to be seen how totally compatible it will be for sideloaded - Kodi App usage.
Proper full motion deinterlacing for Broadcast TV for example needs to be tested with News tickers and fast action ball sports.


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Hey guys, last days Amazon announced their new 2018 Fire TV-Stick ..
I'm currently searching for a Device, that can handle Kodi + 10bit 2160p HEVC HDR10 Movies, with Auto-Framerate Switching..
I was stuck with the Fire TV Gen3, Minix Neo U9-H, Nvidia Shield or the Vero 4k+.
But now, the new 2018 Fire TV-Stick sounds too good for me. With HDR10+ and Dolby Vision Support. It should be "80% faster" than the old version .. Sure, thats mediapress storys, but it will be definitly faster..
All in all, im too ignorant in this MediaBox Subject, so I ask you: Can you recommend the Amazon Fire TV Stick (fired with Kodi), or should I take one of the other mentioned Boxes?

Thanks in advance & Greets!
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Also, 24p support is iffy w/Fire TV Stick 4K as Amazon is now using a MediaTek chip (MT8695), while Pendant & Cube use AMLogic S905Z. And even then, only the Pendant has received support for 24p & refresh rate switching AFAIK.
Refresh rate switching confirmed as supported by AFTVNews w/Amazon.
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now if i could get it to integrate with my ring doorbell.... i'd buy one
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So, it's confirmed that the Fire TV Stick 4k will support Video Frame Rate Matching Smile I'm now really between Vero 4k+ and this new ATV Stick 4k..
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How do you expect to handle high bitrate 4K HDR movies with HD audio on a WiFi only Amazon device reliably ?

As I keep repeating you need Gigabit Ethernet for that scenario.

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Could connect to a USB 3.0 hub & Ethernet adapter combo. I use this one w/FTV3 pendant w/good results.
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(2018-10-07, 16:15)wrxtasy Wrote: How do you expect to handle high bitrate 4K HDR movies with HD audio on a WiFi only Amazon device reliably ?

As I keep repeating you need Gigabit Ethernet for that scenario.
Agreed, but there is supposed to be a wired adapter coming.

I'm wondering about the PowerVR chip. What is that based on or similar to? Is that yet another architecture?
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(2018-10-08, 00:18)hdmkv Wrote: Could connect to a USB 3.0 hub & Ethernet adapter combo. I use this one w/FTV3 pendant w/good results.
 Don't quote me on this, but I want to say that the USB port on the Fire TV devices is 2.0, so you're not even getting half-gigabit speeds. Granted it will be a lot better than wireless and the 10/100 adapter Amazon sells, but I'm curious how you plan to get around there only being a microUSB port on the FireTV, which is used for the AC power feed.

Taken from the product specs: Ports HDMI output, micro USB for power only
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(2018-10-08, 00:50)doug Wrote: I'm wondering about the PowerVR chip. What is that based on or similar to? Is that yet another architecture? 
 Doing a quick Google search, this is the company that used to provide graphics chips to Apple for the iPhone and iPad. Looks like the last model they did was the A10X, which happens to be the same chip in the ATV4K. According to Wikipedia, the ATV4K uses Series 7XT GT7600 Plus with 12 cores/clusters running around 900MHz. The new Fire TV Stick is using the Series8XE GE8300, which according to Anandtech will be probably roughly comparable, maybe a little weaker. So the AppleTV 4K or current gen iPad Pro's are probably the closest analog, and it looks like it would sit somewhere between the ATV4 and ATV4K (closer to the ATV4K) performance wise.
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(2018-10-10, 22:31)aerogems Wrote: Don't quote me on this, but I want to say that the USB port on the Fire TV devices is 2.0, so you're not even getting half-gigabit speeds. Granted it will be a lot better than wireless and the 10/100 adapter Amazon sells, but I'm curious how you plan to get around there only being a microUSB port on the FireTV, which is used for the AC power feed.

Taken from the product specs: Ports HDMI output, micro USB for power only 
You're right, it won't be gigabit, but I believe you get around 300Mbps, which is enough for 4K UHD rips. For connecting, micro USB to hub, then ethernet from hub to switch/router, and power via USB from hub to Amazon adapter to wall.
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(2018-10-10, 22:31)aerogems Wrote:
(2018-10-08, 00:18)hdmkv Wrote: Could connect to a USB 3.0 hub & Ethernet adapter combo. I use this one w/FTV3 pendant w/good results.
 Don't quote me on this, but I want to say that the USB port on the Fire TV devices is 2.0, so you're not even getting half-gigabit speeds.  
Yep - same as a couple of platforms that need USB Gigabit connectivity to replace their built-in WiFi for UHD rips and only have USB 2.0 connectivity. You don't need full GigE for these.
Quote:Granted it will be a lot better than wireless and the 10/100 adapter Amazon sells, but I'm curious how you plan to get around there only being a microUSB port on the FireTV, which is used for the AC power feed.

Taken from the product specs: Ports HDMI output, micro USB for power only 
  
Amazon and Google both have PSUs, or power pass-through, with integrated Ethernet that use OTG + Power over a single connector. You can get third party adaptors that also allow OTG + Power. (I've done this with a Fire TV 4K Pendant)

You can also buy third party OTG hubs that do this, which would allow a USB 3 (over USB 2) GigE adaptor to be used.  As long as drivers are present (which for some chipsets they are) then you are good to go.
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(2018-10-05, 09:57)Hakuna99 Wrote: Auto-Framerate Switching
it's not "Auto" , it's like old firetv 4k: HDMI Mode Switch API https://developer.amazon.com/docs/fire-t...witch.html. Must be implementing on every app.
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The specs clearly say it's for power only. 


Not sure why this is even being discussed anymore.
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(2018-10-12, 16:25)honcho Wrote: The specs clearly say it's for power only. 


Not sure why this is even being discussed anymore.
 Because the specs also say that an ethernet adapter is coming, and this is how the current FireTV Stick and Pendant version do it.
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Hardware deinterlacin for 1080i MPEG2 is already confirmed to be supported by AFTVNews. Wonder is anyone knows about 1080i h264 deinterlacing?
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