NVIDIA SHIELD TV from 4K to HD?
#46
- Does the HDD still work on a PC/Mac/Laptop ?
- Does the Nvidia Shield TV see your HDD via some Android File Browser (e.g. X-Plore File Manager)?
- Does Kodi see the HDD perhaps via a different (Android) path? If so, compare the old and new paths and let us know.

- Yes
- No. Nvidia Shield TV doesn't see the HDD. But I have to tell you I downloaded a file manager here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/detai...ndroid.pop
- How could I verify it? I tried to verify but I'm not able to see it.
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#47
'ES File Explorer File Manager' may be a popular file manager, but it has become totally bloated and uses nag screens to get users to get their pro version. X-Plore Manager is still a normal & sane app without ads.
But, any File Manager should be enough to read/see external HDD's.

So if the Nvidia Shield cannot see your HDD, then Kodi won't see it either. The question is why. Personally I only use network connections on my Shield, so I cannot double check HDD behavior at the moment.
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#48
I HAVE JUST SOLVED MY PROBLEM. I unistalled 'ES File Explorer File Manager', then I removed the power suppy to Shield and I got the miracle. Now Shield and Kodi see my HDD. But now I have other big problems. It seems incredible so many problems.
1) When I watch my last 4K documentary I made with GH5 camera everything is OK and good but when I watch the previous 4K documentaries I made with a videocamera Sony AX100, I see overexposed images and with very bright colors, too bright. They are inguardable videos. Could I solve this troblem?
I attach 2 links of Shield config: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wqkzqc1bl7qdcr...1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/151pon3fi5do1d...2.jpg?dl=0
I think they aare OK, maybe do I have to modify something in Kodi?

2) I mistakenly I created these two items: "0" and "0 (2)". How could I delete them? I worked a lot of time to delete them but I'm not able to do it.
Look at the pic please: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nl13g4ix7204d6b/ABCD.jpg?dl=0
Thanks for your help.
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#49
(2018-11-10, 13:30)FoxADRIANO Wrote: I HAVE JUST SOLVED MY PROBLEM. I unistalled 'ES File Explorer File Manager', then I removed the power suppy to Shield and I got the miracle. Now Shield and Kodi see my HDD. But now I have other big problems. It seems incredible so many problems.
1) When I watch my last 4K documentary I made with GH5 camera everything is OK and good but when I watch the previous 4K documentaries I made with a videocamera Sony AX100, I see overexposed images and with very bright colors, too bright. They are inguardable videos. Could I solve this troblem?
2) I mistakenly I created these two items: "0" and "0 (2)". How could I delete them? I worked a lot of time to delete them but I can not delete them.
Look at the pic please: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nl13g4ix7204d6b/ABCD.jpg?dl=0
Thanks for your help.
1. Is your TV HDR? Is any of the content you are watching HDR? Is your TV staying in HDR mode after watching HDR content when you then watch SDR content?  

I don't know what 'inguardable videos' means.

2. What happens when you long click on those items - does the context menu that should pop up let you remove them?
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#50
I've modified my previous post and I added 2 links of Shield settings:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wqkzqc1bl7qdcr...1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/151pon3fi5do1d...2.jpg?dl=0

'inguardable videos' - Do you think it is good to watch an overexposed images and with very bright colors? Colors are unnatural and very different from the original.

My TV doesn't have HDR

When I long click on those items nothing is happening. With a normal click I see it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0hs4d8fuh49idb...3.jpg?dl=0
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#51
(2018-11-10, 14:02)FoxADRIANO Wrote: I've modified my previous post and I added 2 links of Shield settings:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wqkzqc1bl7qdcr...1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/151pon3fi5do1d...2.jpg?dl=0
I don't speak Italian well I'm afraid - but those look reasonable for 50Hz UHD Rec 709 video replay. What is Kodi set to in Settings -> System -> Display? and Settings -> Player -> Videos?

Switching your User Interface to English briefly will probably give you a lot more help here as we will be more likely to understand the English settings to the Italian one (as there are more English speakers here than Italian)
Quote:'inguardable videos'
I still don't know what you mean by 'inguardable' videos - can you say it in a different word?
Quote:- Do you think it is good to watch an overexposed images and with very bright colors? Colors are unnatural and very different from the original.

It's not likely to cause any damage to an LCD TV - but I don't know why your videos are playing incorrectly.

The obvious causes for incorrect colours and black/white levels are SDR content being displayed at HDR (but you don't have an HDR TV) or a Full (0-255) video signal being output to a Limited (16-235) display - which will crush blacks, blow out whites and over saturate colours.
Quote:When I long click on those items nothing is happening. With a normal click I see it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0hs4d8fuh49idb...3.jpg?dl=0

How strange - whenever I "Long Press" on a Video Source in Kodi I get the context menu. When I say "Long Press" I mean hold the select/OK/Enter key in the middle of the cursor ring at the top of the remote down for longer than usual.  (This is assuming you are using the remote control not the game controller)

I then get 'Play', 'Add to Favourites', 'Edit Source', 'Remove Source', 'Choose Thumbnail','Set Content' options appear to chose from. If you plug in a USB keyboard to your shield pressing 'C" when a source is highlit may do the same thing.

It could be you are running an older version of Kodi than I am though - I'm running Kodi 18.0-BETA4 compiled on 15th October.
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#52
I attach you the settings of Kodi and Shield:

Kodi settings
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dqhji1x05wjwsh...4.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qg1nqneregsh9y...2.jpg?dl=0

Shield settings
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oa6i410m8c4x7q...9.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rz25mtwmdyqvlr...1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qge5mk526c6nrp...5.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgf1470zs8fypg...9.jpg?dl=0

I verified again many of my videos I have in HDD. The last video I made with GH5 camera in Africa and edited with Edius look overexposed enough.
Some videos I made in Africa too with video camera Sony AX100 look very overexposed and with unnatural colors.
Some videos have very saturated colors, too much. Very bad colours.
Some older videos look perfectly.
I'm really worried.

PS: With "Long Press" I deleted those items but not in that page I sent you saw in the pic but in another page.
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#53
(2018-11-10, 16:23)FoxADRIANO Wrote: I attach you the settings of Kodi and Shield:

Kodi settings
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dqhji1x05wjwsh...4.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qg1nqneregsh9y...2.jpg?dl=0

Shield settings
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oa6i410m8c4x7q...9.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rz25mtwmdyqvlr...1.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qge5mk526c6nrp...5.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgf1470zs8fypg...9.jpg?dl=0

I verified again many of my videos I have in HDD. The last video I made with GH5 camera in Africa and edited with Edius look overexposed enough.
Some videos I made in Africa too with video camera Sony AX100 look very overexposed and with unnatural colors.
Some videos have very saturated colors, too much. Very bad colours.
Some older videos look perfectly.
I'm really worried.

PS: With "Long Press" I deleted those items but not in that page I sent you saw in the pic but in another page.
 Could I suggest you upload clips of both 'good' and 'bad' videos - so we can check them on our own set-ups?  I have a Shield TV plus S905X and S912 boxes, as well as Intel.

If you know how to use ffmpeg - just do an
Code:
 ffmpeg 'input file' -acodec copy -vcodec copy -t 00:01:00 'output file'
 to create 1'00" long clips\?
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#54
Sorry, I don't know ffmpeg, I never used it.
The Kodi I installed is kodi-20181109-a948f998-master-arm64-v8a  (x64)
on the previous link you did see Whitelist was not configured but now I have configured it and I get the same problems.

I don't understand which precise clip I have to post. Do you mean the original clip or the edited clip? I have both. But the problem is another. If I put it on Dropbox the clip will decrease its quality.

EDIT: It is incredible: I downloaded MX Player Pro and installed it on Shield and it works perfectly with all my videos. They have the right chromaticism and brightness. PERFECT!
But I'd like to understand why my Kodi and Shield doesn't work fine with my videos.
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#55
(2018-11-10, 17:08)FoxADRIANO Wrote: Sorry, I don't know ffmpeg, I never used it.

If you have a PC or a Mac then it's pretty straightforward to download it and use it - though if you aren't comfortable at the terminal then it's going to require a little bit of learning.

However ffmpeg is a VERY useful tool for video - and well worth mastering.
Quote:The Kodi I installed is kodi-20181109-a948f998-master-arm64-v8a  (x64)
on the previous link you did see Whitelist was not configured but now I have configured it and I get the same problems.

I don't understand which precise clip I have to post.
You said some clips you have played OK and some played badly. I suggest you upload short bits of each one so we can look at them in Kodi on the Shield TV and other platforms to see what's different or special about them.

I work in TV production for my day job so am used to evaluating picture quality and seeing where things go wrong.
Quote:Do you mean the original clip or the edited clip?

I mean the clips that don't play properly in Kodi (and those that do). Whether these are rushes (original recordings) from your camera, or edited content from your editing package (Avid, Premiere Pro, FCPX, Vegas, Edius etc.) it doesn't really matter.
Quote:I have both. But the problem is another. If I put it on Dropbox the clip will decrease its quality.

No - Dropbox won't change the quality of the files, that's not how it works. It WILL create a low bitrate, low quality web proxy for you to view in Dropbox's web browser, but you can still download the original video file exactly as it was uploaded for use elsewhere (The web viewing version is just a useful additional Dropbox feature). We use Dropbox all the time for broadcast media and it's transparent (though Signiant Media Shuttle is more common) and it doesn't alter the files uploaded in anyway. What you upload is what you download - bit-perfect.
Quote:EDIT: It is incredible: I downloaded MX Player Pro and installed it on Shield and it works perfectly with all my videos. They have the right chromaticism and brightness. PERFECT!
But I'd like to understand why my Kodi and Shield doesn't work fine with my videos.
 
Yes - we all would. If you can Dropbox us 'good' clips and 'bad' clips we can analyse them...
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#56
oK, thanks for your news. I hope to solve my problems with Kodi. I attach you 3 clips I edited with Edius:

This clip is good. I shot it with Lumix GH5 camera
1) https://www.dropbox.com/s/brjd6wvrrybvvi...a.mp4?dl=0  

This clip is very overexposed. I shot it with Sony AX100
2) https://www.dropbox.com/s/olrkejvekd12th...a.mp4?dl=0

This clip has very saturated colors. I shot it with Sony AX100
3) https://www.dropbox.com/s/h2b516zp2kizda...p.mp4?dl=0

I repeat, with MX Player Pro, I am able to watch them correctly.
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#57
(2018-11-10, 21:02)FoxADRIANO Wrote: I repeat, with MX Player Pro, I am able to watch them correctly.
Yes... We know that now Smile
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#58
(2018-11-10, 17:08)FoxADRIANO Wrote: EDIT: It is incredible: I downloaded MX Player Pro and installed it on Shield and it works perfectly with all my videos. They have the right chromaticism and brightness. PERFECT!
But I'd like to understand why my Kodi and Shield doesn't work fine with my videos.

Because MX Player Pro is only the best video player, and Kodi is a complete media center with an inferior video player.
For example, take a closer look at subtitles (with all offered options) you get on MX Player Pro, and compare them to ones you get in Kodi to get the full picture.
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#59
(2018-11-10, 21:02)FoxADRIANO Wrote: oK, thanks for your news. I hope to solve my problems with Kodi. I attach you 3 clips I edited with Edius:

This clip is good. I shot it with Lumix GH5 camera
1) https://www.dropbox.com/s/brjd6wvrrybvvi...a.mp4?dl=0  

This clip is very overexposed. I shot it with Sony AX100
2) https://www.dropbox.com/s/olrkejvekd12th...a.mp4?dl=0

This clip has very saturated colors. I shot it with Sony AX100
3) https://www.dropbox.com/s/h2b516zp2kizda...p.mp4?dl=0

I repeat, with MX Player Pro, I am able to watch them correctly.
 La Bassa looks OK on my nVidia Shield TV.  Slightly blown out on the white head dress feathers - but full 2160/50p motion and good colour.

Himba looks like it has been frame rate converted both on my Mac and my Shield TV. It doesn't look like it was originally shot 2160/50p - and looks as if it has been converted with bad motion conversion artefacts.  The sky is blown out at around 108%.

Filipp has OK saturation and levels on my Shield TV and on my Mac - but the motion is not full 2160/50p. 

Both Himba and Filipp look like they have been shot at something other than 2160/50p (2160/24p? 25p?)

Himba looks over exposed in FCPX and on my Shield TV.  Looking at a waveform monitor in FCP X it's hitting the clippers.

I installed MX Player and the results were near-as-damn-it identical to the Kodi version I am running - no obvious difference - certainly no 'night and day' difference.
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#60
I don't know what to do with my Shield? I don't know if it's faulty and if I will send it back. I could have a refund without problems. Yesterday MX Player Pro read my files so well, perfectly. But today MX Player Pro not only reads them all in jerks but the remote control is so slow when I open MX Player Pro. It doesn't respond well. It is not reactive but only with MX Player Pro. With Shield the remote control works fine. I don't know what to do.
You are right: I shot Himba and Filipp with Sony AX100, it is 25p. But the strange thing is all those videos look badly not only those 2 clips.
Anyway to conclude: Kodi isn't working well with my Shield. It read badly all other my documentaries. It works enough well only with "La bassa" video. I wrote "enough well" because when I watch it with the Shield, I didn't notice good colours above all on the black skin. Kodi give colder and more violet color of the skin compared to the other software. Only MX Player Pro was working perfectly even regarding black skin colours. I'd like to give one last test. Today I will uninstall MX Player Pro and install it again to verify how it reads my files again.
If you were me, what would you do with my Shield?
Anyway thanks a lot for your help.

EDIT: I installed MX Player Pro again and it works fine again. I noticed the delay problem of the remote control is due to the battery. If I'm very close to the Shield, the remote control works fine. It seems incredible because I have it from 2 days.
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