[Slurrrp]

Hi Jeroen, when playing music the now playing section doesn't show the cd cover or fanart anymore?

Indeed, that's not right. I'll look into a fix tonight.

edit: easier fix than I thought. Should be fixed on Git.

Now it shows the fanart, but not the cd cover when there is no fanart.

[BigDaddyRal]

A checkmark usually indicates something "done", so in this case to me it says "watched". Also, checkmarks is something you see in many other skins, so that kind of goes against what you said about that.

The symbols indicate something either unwatched or partially watched, like a circular pie chart, not a moon.

Maybe something like this could be an alternative



In the case of TV shows I could maybe put the number of unwatched episodes inside, although it may be too small.

Either way, what I am looking for is something that works both in list view and the other views.

I'm not a big fan of the current flag indicators, as they are sometimes hard to see. But I love the idea of this alternative. I think it's great. Particularly with the number of episodes on the circle. If you look at Aeon Nox 5 in the logo view, theres a little circle with a number in it next to the tv show logo, and it not only looks great but makes it easy to see how many new episodes there are. My two cents.

[henrikyo]

Hi jeroen

First of all. Thanks for updating refocus. I havw used this skin since day 1 of its release. And i just love it. Its simple yet beautiful.

I have one question however

I only use movies tvshows and addons on the home menu. I feel the side vertical bar takes up to much space when i use few home menus.

I know some time ago you thought about adding a horizontal home menu. Is that something you have planned.

I love the idea of fanart on the home menu also. But i feel the blue bar on the left side intrude to much of the fanart. So i cant see it. Also if the widget would cycle by it self on the home menu autiomaticly. Like in xperience1080 that would been super cool.

Also now it doesnt change when i hover over tvshows then go to movies.

Love the skin. But would love it even more with a horizontal home menu as a alternative. I remember a mock up picture you did a while back and it looked awesome

[knewknow]

A checkmark usually indicates something "done", so in this case to me it says "watched". Also, checkmarks is something you see in many other skins, so that kind of goes against what you said about that.

The symbols indicate something either unwatched or partially watched, like a circular pie chart, not a moon.

Maybe something like this could be an alternative



In the case of TV shows I could maybe put the number of unwatched episodes inside, although it may be too small.

Either way, what I am looking for is something that works both in list view and the other views.

I'm not a big fan of the current flag indicators, as they are sometimes hard to see. But I love the idea of this alternative. I think it's great. Particularly with the number of episodes on the circle. If you look at Aeon Nox 5 in the logo view, theres a little circle with a number in it next to the tv show logo, and it not only looks great but makes it easy to see how many new episodes there are. My two cents.

Aeon Nox's little number on each show has always posed a big problem for my setup (can't see these tiny details well on my TV). I'm afraid that the moon/halfmoon icons may be hard to see as well (native 1024x768 pixels mapped to 1366x768). I love the look of the circles (sorry Reynald) in the list view, but I do agree that they might not be ideal for poster views.

[Reynald]

I really struggle to express myself, I did not want to say that I not liked, on the contrary I love. I meant that I do not like moons, I understand that wanted jeroen offers him an idea and I quickly search on the net. Rather what he proposed. Sorry I'm bad in English. And I really struggle to do understand me to you : (

[Jeroen]

Now it shows the fanart, but not the cd cover when there is no fanart.

Three times is a charm?

I love the look of the circles (sorry Reynald) in the list view, but I do agree that they might not be ideal for poster views.

Agreed, in this form they are not suitable for image based views. I quite like them as they are in list view, but for the image based views I want to make some sort of combination of these and the old ones. Not making great progress though.

[mortstar]

Now it shows the fanart, but not the cd cover when there is no fanart.

Three times is a charm?

Unfortunately not for me. None of my artists have fanart, so I think I am right in saying that when music is playing the shelf area to the right of the menu should display the album art. All I get is a generic background (livetv.jpg), this is with your latest commit.

[Jeroen]

Unfortunately not for me. None of my artists have fanart, so I think I am right in saying that when music is playing the shelf area to the right of the menu should display the album art. All I get is a generic background (livetv.jpg), this is with your latest commit.

The bug as I experienced it showed default_Landscape.png instead of fanart and album art, so this is very unexpected. Does it show the metadata, title, album and such ?

[mortstar]

Nope I get none of that. Here's a screenshot of the home screen when playing an album.



EDIT: If Shelf is enabled I get album art background with Title, Artist and Album text. However, I don't use shelf I just have a fanart slideshow instead.

[Jeroen]

Ah I see. As you were talking about "shelf area" I thought you had that enabled. The bug I fixed before was shelf only.

The media info not showing is a bug, the fallback to album art was actually never there. But it makes sense to have it.

I'll add it tomorrow and implement artist slideshow there too while I'm at it.

[mortstar]

Yeah sorry for the crossed-wires. I wasn't really sure what you called that area, so went with shelf as looking at your commits I assumed you were fixing for all scenarios.

[keisuji]

Hi I using reFocus with a remote control on a pi and it works great but where is the shutdown menu. I can´t find it. :-)

[Martijn]

Something I've noticed with 'recommended episodes' is that it always defaults to list view. After every update to the data or after a reboot, I have to reset the view to slide. This doesn't happen in 'new episodes' which keeps its view setting. I wasn't sure if this is a skin or system issue.

Update after talking to Unfledged about this. The reload property in the onclick action of the home menu button is the cause of this. Basically every time the reload takes place, the URL changes so XBMC treats it like a new folder, thus applying the default viewtype as a result.

Unfortunately removing the reload property from the link also means the container will not get reloaded automatically, obviously. You will need to exit and re-enter the window to get a refreshed list. Especially when watching episodes, to me that is a big negative.

So, a new update on this. I got a nice surprise from Unfledged, a shiny new script specifically made for this purpose

The Library Data Provider add-on was never really intended to be used in the library, but for Gotham's new list filling feature (that's how it is used in the homescreen shelf widgets). It works in the library, but as is clear with some drawbacks.

This new script will remember the view settings and the content will automatically be updated (at the cost of a small performance hit compared to the Library Data Provider script)

So, I replaced the script used in the library, and reinstated the "Watchlist" name in the home menu.

This means that as of now there is a new required add-on.

The script isn't available on the XBMC repo, so you will need to install it manually. Hopefully it will be made available there, so it can be automatically installed. For now, you can download the add-on here:

script.watchlist

If you do not install this add-on you will get a "dependencies not met" error when installing or updating reFocus.

Note that the Library Data Provider is still needed by the skin.

I hate the fact we will end up 10 more scripts just because instead of fixing one service/script that provide most/everything.

why another script instead of fixing current Library Data Provider script so it doesn't show this issue.
i have nearly adapted skin widgets script to combine all of this.

so from my pov all those extra script are just repo pollution and doesn't make maintaining it any easier.
all this keeps running in the background when not being used any more. also this will show up in the repo list and people just wouldn't know any more what they want/need or should install.

i will discuss this internally what we will do about this as things should be made user friendly and not creating confusion for users that they again need to configure another script and that the old skin widgets isn't used any more but will still be running in the background.

of course if there's no other way it won't be an issue.

[Jeroen]

Hi I using reFocus with a remote control on a pi and it works great but where is the shutdown menu. I can´t find it. :-)

It's in the "System" submenu.

I hate the fact we will end up 10 more scripts just because instead of fixing one service/script that provide most/everything.

why another script instead of fixing current Library Data Provider script so it doesn't show this issue.
i have nearly adapted skin widgets script to combine all of this.

so from my pov all those extra script are just repo pollution and doesn't make maintaining it any easier.
all this keeps running in the background when not being used any more. also this will show up in the repo list and people just wouldn't know any more what they want/need or should install.

i will discuss this internally what we will do about this as things should be made user friendly and not creating confusion for users that they again need to configure another script and that the old skin widgets isn't used any more but will still be running in the background.

of course if there's no other way it won't be an issue.

I understand your viewpoint, and basically agree. But seeing as neither the skin or the script are on the repo I don't see how anything is being polluted.

If you're referring to me expressing my wish to have this on the repo, then just don't allow it on the repo I guess. From my understanding this script doesn't run in the background btw.

I just don't see how this would be the right place to address this I guess.

[removed151214]

Something I've noticed with 'recommended episodes' is that it always defaults to list view. After every update to the data or after a reboot, I have to reset the view to slide. This doesn't happen in 'new episodes' which keeps its view setting. I wasn't sure if this is a skin or system issue.

Update after talking to Unfledged about this. The reload property in the onclick action of the home menu button is the cause of this. Basically every time the reload takes place, the URL changes so XBMC treats it like a new folder, thus applying the default viewtype as a result.

Unfortunately removing the reload property from the link also means the container will not get reloaded automatically, obviously. You will need to exit and re-enter the window to get a refreshed list. Especially when watching episodes, to me that is a big negative.

So, a new update on this. I got a nice surprise from Unfledged, a shiny new script specifically made for this purpose

The Library Data Provider add-on was never really intended to be used in the library, but for Gotham's new list filling feature (that's how it is used in the homescreen shelf widgets). It works in the library, but as is clear with some drawbacks.

This new script will remember the view settings and the content will automatically be updated (at the cost of a small performance hit compared to the Library Data Provider script)

So, I replaced the script used in the library, and reinstated the "Watchlist" name in the home menu.

This means that as of now there is a new required add-on.

The script isn't available on the XBMC repo, so you will need to install it manually. Hopefully it will be made available there, so it can be automatically installed. For now, you can download the add-on here:

script.watchlist

If you do not install this add-on you will get a "dependencies not met" error when installing or updating reFocus.

Note that the Library Data Provider is still needed by the skin.

I hate the fact we will end up 10 more scripts just because instead of fixing one service/script that provide most/everything.

why another script instead of fixing current Library Data Provider script so it doesn't show this issue.
i have nearly adapted skin widgets script to combine all of this.

so from my pov all those extra script are just repo pollution and doesn't make maintaining it any easier.
all this keeps running in the background when not being used any more. also this will show up in the repo list and people just wouldn't know any more what they want/need or should install.

i will discuss this internally what we will do about this as things should be made user friendly and not creating confusion for users that they again need to configure another script and that the old skin widgets isn't used any more but will still be running in the background.

of course if there's no other way it won't be an issue.

Why another script? 3 reasons

First, I disagree that having one script to do everything is always the best way. This fix can be done in Library Data Provider - it just needs a way to return results from the plugin element without relying on the cache - but that adds extra complication to the script for the sake of a single skin. Not to mention this would require a fair bit of refactoring of that script, compared to writing a very very simple script to do it.

Second, your version of skin widgets is coming. I could add this to Library Data Provider, but that could instantly be obsolete and this same problem could need fixing again. A separate script means if your version doesn't include this fix, it doesn't need fixing in the future.

Thirdly, most of what else the Library Data Provider does can be done with playlists/library links, so its technically possible with this script to actually not need Library Data Provider (whether thats wise is a different discussion!), so actually reducing the number of background services by one.

I'm quite happy, though, to make a pull request to the Library Data Provider script. I'm equally happy to wait for your Skin Widgets which, now you know of this problem, I presume will already have the solution within, so making the watch list provider obsolete Up to you.