2019-03-12, 15:09
I found it HDR completely unusable in the first release, havent bothered since, no idea why they didnt include passthrough mode,... Doh!...
(2019-03-12, 16:42)willemd Wrote: Does anyone know whether the Kodi team intend to implement HDR passthrough for Windows in v19?Yeah, this is why I was asking. I couldn't wrap my head around the fact that HDR passthrough wasn't supported, I was hopeful to be missing something. Unfortunately the RERO approach doesn't seem to be working for devs (no criticism here, simple observation, I'm sure there's plenty of valid reasons), as such I'm afraid we'll be stuck with suboptimal HDR for a long time.
(2019-03-12, 16:42)willemd Wrote: I think 90% of DSPlayer users only use it because it offers HDR in Windows.Sorry, I have to disagree there I'm afraid. By virtue, I believe those attracted to Dsplayer with MadVr are looking for the best Picture quality, whilst retaining the usability of Kodi, which it does, hands down.
(2019-03-12, 20:09)ashlar Wrote:There is no suitable Windows API available, only a manual HDR toggle switch. So only this toggle switch could be utilized. madVR is using the Nvidia and AMD video drivers to passthrough the HDR metadata.(2019-03-12, 16:42)willemd Wrote: Does anyone know whether the Kodi team intend to implement HDR passthrough for Windows in v19?Yeah, this is why I was asking. I couldn't wrap my head around the fact that HDR passthrough wasn't supported, I was hopeful to be missing something. Unfortunately the RERO approach doesn't seem to be working for devs (no criticism here, simple observation, I'm sure there's plenty of valid reasons), as such I'm afraid we'll be stuck with suboptimal HDR for a long time.
(2019-03-13, 16:27)mclingo Wrote: i wonder if there is a half way project that would be easier for someone. The current version of DS is heavily baked in with access to settings etc which dont really need to be there are you can set all these in the MADVR app, all we really need is a renderer switch so we could choose KODI renderer or MADVR very much like MPC-BE/HC etc.I think what would need to be ported to Kodi 18 is the section on media filters/rules and the video renderer itself. "That's it". All the portion on settings to specific filters configuration, madVR configuration, etc. could be done without. I understand why aracnoz chose to implement it but, at the end of the day, it's a "nice to have" not something mandatory.
This should be easier for someone to do, it might even be easier to do this from scratch rather than work from the current DS code as it would really just be a baked in external player.
Here's a thing with this idea too, you say KODI devs cant be convinced to take on MADVR and bake it in, I agree that will never happen, however them may be able to be convinced to open up rendering so alternative renderers can be chosen like other desktop video players.
(2019-03-13, 16:37)vitocorl Wrote: This is the answer i had when i made a similar request in the Feature Requests section: https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=335218madVR is based on DirectShow and Kodi isn't, so there is a complete mismatch in decoding and rendering. For HDR, in particular, it is becoming imperative to use LAV Filters for all playback. There is even some early support in LAV Filters for at least recognizing HDR10+ and HLG, and supposedly the Nvidia video drivers may have some test code support for Dolby Vision (How that might work seems up in the air in terms of the new methods that may be on the horizon to rip and play Dolby Vision content). LAV Filters alone would not be compatible with Kodi VideoPlayer.
However, nobody else has requested or asked for the same issue, even if this particular DSplayer thread has so many people watching it....
(2019-03-13, 16:27)mclingo Wrote: i wonder if there is a half way project that would be easier for someone. The current version of DS is heavily baked in with access to settings etc which dont really need to be there are you can set all these in the MADVR app, all we really need is a renderer switch so we could choose KODI renderer or MADVR very much like MPC-BE/HC etc.The settings in the video menu accessed during video playback are actually a separate add-on and a limited burden on programming. The save in DSPlayer database feature and the few madVR settings in the DSPlayer settings menu could certainly be eliminated. However, that doesn't lose much weight, and wouldn't be a good reason to start over when the technical challenges of adding madVR support to Kodi have already been overcome in the current DSPlayer. DSPlayer would have to go on in its current form and maybe lose some unneeded code to keep it more lightweight.
This should be easier for someone to do, it might even be easier to do this from scratch rather than work from the current DS code as it would really just be a baked in external player.
Here's a thing with this idea too, you say KODI devs cant be convinced to take on MADVR and bake it in, I agree that will never happen, however them may be able to be convinced to open up rendering so alternative renderers can be chosen like other desktop video players.