[brazen1]

Problem is that interest in 3D is pretty much dead with major manufacturers.

I'd bet dimes to dollars once 4k is milked, a new round of 4k/8k with 3D will appear so they can all upgrade..... again.
This is why I didn't upgrade to 4k 3D until the last of the Mohicans of new old stock was left.
Let's not lose sight of the fact that many blockbusters are still released in 3D to this day.

who will make the first perfect media player ? and when ? that is the question

Windows with an external player makes a perfect media player imo and it's been around forever. Got a Windows computer of some sort? Add PDVD and a playercorefactory file and you're all set. If you already have the Windows device (and who doesn't?), the low cost of the software is less than all these devices plus, there's no limitations or problems.

I've heard the stories when I've brought this up in the past:

It's too much of a hassle to add that playercorefactory to my userdata folder. That 2 minutes is a waste of my life and the 2 days figuring out what works and what doesn't on my alternative dream device is much better spent.

It doesn't look right parked next to my AVR and subwoofer.

Automatic updates ruin my experience. You're digging deep on this one since it's easily overcome and infrequent to begin with.

The fans in a Windows device are too noisy. Another deep dig easily overcome if your fans are even noisy to begin with.

I just don't like Windows. Why, we'll never know, you never say?

I don't like upgrading parts in my PC. I'd rather have to buy whole new units all over again and again since I can't upgrade anything in them every time something new in the media world is introduced.

A Windows PC solution offers an infinite amount of control over everything hardware and software. This is too complicated for me and I would rather be limited by the finite control of very little and live with the consequences.

I'd rather juggle between a bunch of devices rather than have a complete solution in one box. That one box is too much to deal with and I need to spend money. I know I need a server since my device only has 1 hard drive in it. Then I'll need a Windows PC to manage my rips that I can later send to the server somehow. How else am I gonna' get it from disc to file? I need a playback device that I can call on the server to send me. Actually, I'm gonna' need 3 or 4 cuz one can't do what the other does. I need lot's a stuff for specific stuff so I don't get confused about my stuff and the stuff my stuff does and doesn't. Then I can organize where I'm going to stuff my stuff so I can get to the stuff and plug all that stuff in cuz stuff has to communicate with stuff and all those cables and WiFi addresses and compatibility and limitations and all that other stuff matters.

I got a bluescreen once since I managed to screw up my install by not following directions and I'm never going through that again!

I hate having to manually boot my PC or let it hibernate. A remote mapped to do this is too much "fiddling".

What would the Jones's say if they found out my home theatre was based around a Windows PC instead of a bunch of devices they can read about somewhere? The glory of how much I've invested would leave them speechless at how cheap as well as inferior my theatre must be? I couldn't bare the thought. They would walk out on the showing.

I don't like the idea that Kodi and an external player are two separate things even though they work great together including remote control buttons.

I tried to present the idea to my wife and kids assuring them all they needed to do is what they presently do: Sit on the couch, work the remote control and eat popcorn. They were appalled and I slept on the couch that night next to the remote.

I had problems using an external player in the past. I don't remember what it was, I just didn't like it. The problems I have with my current device, I seem to like much better.

I twiddle my thumbs a lot. Every chance I get to wait on hold when I call the manufacturer in China with yet another problem is a delight. Sometimes I even get connected and I'm told it will be in a firmware update in the future.... maybe. Then I get to wait in anxious anticipation. Meanwhile, me the wife and kids get lots of Monopoly time together.

I can't seem to get around the extra $60 expense of an external player added to my PC. I'd much rather spend more on something else and receive less.

Did I miss anything?
I'm just funnin' with ya' all. It's nice to have choices and alternatives, especially so many that can appeal to any circumstance. Kodi tastes good any way you serve it and that's what counts.