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Win Intel HTPCs/NUCs & Kodi-native 3D MVC Playback
(2016-06-22, 18:07)brazen1 Wrote: Fwiw, you can run your title through mkvtoolnix and select left eye first for your right eye first titles to correct. It only takes a few minutes.
Hey @brazen1, I just used MakeMKV on 'The Hobbit, part 1' disc 1 and on 'Bait', which are both right-eye first titles, but when I open up in MKVToolNix, I see this for both...

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...indicating left-eye first, which isn't right, at least per MKVToolNix's documentation...
Quote:13: both eyes laced in one Block (left eye is first) (field sequential mode)
14: both eyes laced in one Block (right eye is first) (field sequential mode)
Why? 'The Hobbit' and 'Bait' are definitely right-eye first. Hmm.



(2016-06-22, 18:39)movie78 Wrote:
(2016-06-22, 18:19)hdmkv Wrote: Auto flip-eyes doesn't appear to be functioning w/the latest (June 8) build, at least for ISO's. But, didn't know you could set left-eye first via MKVToolNix... I may just mount my right-eye first ISO's, demux, set left-eye first, then mux back into ISO.

That's is a good idea, but what ATMOS/TRUEHD ?
TsMuxer doesn't support that.
It does. tsMuxeR needs a TrueHD/ATMOS + AC3 core combined track. MKV doesn't support this; it needs those audio tracks to be separate. So, to build a new ISO w/tsMuxeR, only use the video track from MKV, and use only the audio track (THD+AC3) from your original ISO.

If you want, you can also do it all from just the MKV w/TrueHD or ATMOS by using EAC3to to build a new THD+AC3 track, via command line like so:
Code:
eac3to moviename3d.mkv 2: new-track.thd+ac3

Then, use tsMuxeR to build new ISO.
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@hdmkv - i thought you were one of the folks who said blu ray BD-J menus were working with the mvc wip.

did you do anything special to make it work? there were posts indicating it requires a special build of a separate lib and then a build of kodi to incorporate it.

i know it does not work for folder rips. havent tried iso but i am specifically speaking to BD-J menus

thanks
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Not me... I don't use menus with any of my BD rips, just movie-only MKV's or ISO's. You probably mean @movie78.
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thanks. yeah - i'm same as you but thought i would see how BD-J menus were coming along. too much hassle at the moment to build the various pieces
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(2016-06-22, 13:28)T800 Wrote:
(2016-06-21, 17:56)movie78 Wrote:
(2016-06-21, 17:35)T800 Wrote: Set up my new Nuc and other than sorting the install stick it was a breeze.

For some reason on my display settings I don't have:
1920 x 1080 3D (recommended)
as in the first slide show pic in the first post. Any ideas why?

I'm on Windows 10 pro, fully updated all drivers installed.

Check your HDMI connect (AVR)
Video Drivers

I changed my driver (latest one) for 15.40.22.4424 and now 3D is available, thanks.

Seems like it wasn't the driver but my TV being non 3D in my HDMI chain. Works fine with just projector.
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Anyone else experienced any problems playing zootropolis 3d on latest and earlier builds? Buffering..
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You mean 'Zootopia'? If so, no problems. Just watched all the way few days ago.
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(2016-06-23, 01:45)TheShoe Wrote: @hdmkv - i thought you were one of the folks who said blu ray BD-J menus were working with the mvc wip.

did you do anything special to make it work? there were posts indicating it requires a special build of a separate lib and then a build of kodi to incorporate it.

i know it does not work for folder rips. haven't tried iso but i am specifically speaking to BD-J menus

thanks

Some BD- J Menus works according to this thread Kodi BD-Java Support
But most of the time, when you see this information BD-Java = Yes with BDInfo that means, is not going to work.

BDInfo
Disc Title: 100 FEET AND OPEN GRAVES
Disc Size: 49,029,749,288 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
BDInfo: 0.5.3


If the BD-Java = No then BD MENU will work. I use BD Menu for some of my Movies for a specific reason.
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(2016-06-22, 18:07)brazen1 Wrote:
(2016-06-21, 23:38)Timpppa Wrote: Hi!

On my journey to the 3D MVC I've come close to the very end. I've spent hours and hours searching every possible bit of info for my case and I've tested those things. Sadly no success, yet.

1. Hardware:
Intel C2D E8400, Nvidia 610 GT, 1.4 HDMI all the way through to the Benq W1350 video projector.

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In the end, I've tried and I'm willing to admit my defeat. Just asking if there is any hope?

Thanks!

You do not need to use the earlier build. I'm using latest 6/8 build with no problems. After the original thread was closed, the Nvidia quirks were addressed in the following release and have worked well since.

You do not need libmfx32. That is intended for non Intel users, mainly AMD.

Be certain your folder/file have .3D in the naming. Don't forget the period (dot).

Download Intel_Media_SDK_2016.msi from Intel website. You will need to register with them to gain access to the download. Once installed, check Intel Media SDK 2016 is 1.7 (Intel_Media_SDK_2016.0.1) info in programs folder.

Remember, to run the stereoscopic setup in Nvidia control panel and always enable stereoscopic. The main quirk, when 24Hz matched refresh rate is switched, Nvidia enables 3D for 2D titles, has been addressed. When Kodi starts, 3D is disabled globally (system wide) allowing 2D 24Hz titles to render correctly. When a 3D title is selected, Kodi will enable 3D globally and turn it back off when finished. When exiting Kodi, 3D will again be enabled globally.

Some BD menus still not working as of yet so using this build with seamless PDVD for occasions when menu is desired. There is no difference in audio/video quality. This is the final hurdle that will overcome any need for an external player. Been using full frame packed MVC iso's and MVC mkv's, some interpolated to 60Hz rips, HEVC low bitrate as well. The build(s) handling most everything thrown at them.

Some titles require eye flip adjustment and is not automated. Most of you are using mkv. Fwiw, you can run your title through mkvtoolnix and select left eye first for your right eye first titles to correct. It only takes a few minutes.

Hi Brazen1 and humble thanks for your reply!

I'm pleased to announce... Ricochet 2... ehrm I mean this works finally!!!

Things I noticed on the go:
1. Bluray is automatically in 3D-mode and it is on "Hardware based" -3Dmode on Kodi. Just works.

2. MakeMKV's lossless MKV from bluray ISO behaves as good as the bluray (no shit?) and I can add my own subtitles apart from those yellow ones on disc, yak. One problem there is though: when rewinding, say like 30 seconds or 1 minute, audio/video isn't on sync anymore. Problem on my hardware end?

3. DVDFab FSBS rips (3800x1080) work like charm, but Kodi automatically thinks they are SBS even though I have named them "Frozen 3D.mkv" etc. I didnt try the dot (.) there though. It wouldnt be a problem but whenever I choose the "Hardware based" -3Dmode on Kodi, it doesn't save it. Movie starts on SBS mode on next time again, changes on aspect ratio etc. is saved. Usually Kodi saves things like that but not this time. There ISN'T rewinding audio/video sync problem though. But is there anything I can do about those subtitles when they show on both sides of the screen? (2 x subtitles entirely, they are not stacked)

4. The only thing I didnt "get" to work eventually from the 3D aspect was the Martian frame packed mkv. Tried changing the 3D stereo headers in Toolnix (setting 13 on both video tracks and tried setting 13 in the first and 14 on the second track). This made subtitles go 3D but not the movie. MakeMKV's mkv file had just one video track --> worked, so I think DVDFab's rip option "two video streams in one file" doesn't cope so easily?

5. Even on 2D movies Kodi changes the refresh rate to 24p (of course the movies are 23.976 fps) --> BLAM, Benq w1350 thinks its time for 24p 1920x2205 frame packed and everything is on 3D mode then :D It looks normal 2D with glasses but... I prefer not using the glasses on 2D (;

Summary:
3D MKV --> subtitles ok, desync on rewinding
FSBS --> subtitles NOT ok, totally sync on rewinding, (Kodi doesnt save the "hardware based" 3D option) last one is not a problem, just annoying
MVC MKV --> not working yet, there was stuttering very rarely, on the first few minutes I think but didn't notice later.

Side notes:
I. How makemkv's mkv differs from the DVDFab's "two video streams in one file" mkv? They are both frame packed mkv so...? (other has 1 video track and other has 2 when I think both should have 2?)
II. One thing I thought might do the audio/video sync: FSBS is 21GB (Frozen), pureMKV 30GB (Frozen), the Frozen.iso doesnt use nearly as much hardware capabilities because it had decoding codec in it or something? and (MVCmkv 40GB (Martian) actually this doesnt have rewinding desync, little problems on playback but they go away mostly). My processor is having rough time on bigger file sizes? Now that I think, Decoding method on Kodi was shown on "Bino" in video options when "DXVA" would use GPU also? I have ticked the DXVA in the options, but video is on "Bino" -decoding mode.



Wow, when things get going, more questions follow!

Thanks again Brazen1! (sadly I didn't figure out how to give reputation, maybe I should have more posts :/)
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i have not had the audio synch issue since adjusting cache settings in advancedsettings.xml though i havent tested enough to prove it

can post those settings later when home.

so far build from 6/8 is newr perfect.

my only two issues

1: audio output format switching using waspi after many changes (songs) of varying sample rates and speakers eventually causes audio issues. reboot is necessary

2: audio output format switch takes a few seconds and beginning of track is silent ad a result. they need to introduce a playback delay by NN seconds when the format changes from current
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I would like to know more about these advancedsettings.xml cache adjustments. Sorry if I've missed it earlier in this thread.
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@brazen1, unless you know a way, there doesn't appear to be a way to alter the stereo_mode from right-eye first to left-eye first. The stereo_mode flag resides in the MPLS playlist file, not the m2ts stream itself. I tried BDEdit, but didn't see a way to edit the flag, or even find the flag for that matter.

On another note, thought I'd re-try Dolby Digital Plus, and passthrough is still not fixed Sad.
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(2016-06-24, 03:43)hdmkv Wrote: @brazen1, unless you know a way, there doesn't appear to be a way to alter the stereo_mode from right-eye first to left-eye first. The stereo_mode flag resides in the MPLS playlist file, not the m2ts stream itself. I tried BDEdit, but didn't see a way to edit the flag, or even find the flag for that matter.

On another note, thought I'd re-try Dolby Digital Plus, and passthrough is still not fixed Sad.

Hi , I am play on this Kodi Bluray ISO and during the video happeningTearing Video , why is that happen? ( I have play full ISO Blueray "13 soldiers..." and " Eye in the sky" )

Details : Kodi video setting fixed on 24HZ " I have cancelled the command adjust refresh rate to movie " .
in info on the movie : 1080p 24Hz .
I have LG UF850 with DENON 1200 .
BTW - Denon 1200 has audio delay with each source I enter to him , some guys have said to me the cause of that is "Over video picture processing on TV" but on my WEB OS 2.0 I can't find word about "True motion " or other engine that can I cancel , you know something about that ?


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hdmkv, you can add Journey to Space to the Right Eye First list.
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Done, thanks. Also, to post #1 of this thread.

As I'm not seeing a way to modify the MPLS file in a BD structure to change right-eye to left, I'll try doing it in a MVC MKV and see if it works. Not sure, as when I ripped two right-eye first titles, they already showed "13"...
Code:
13: both eyes laced in one Block (left eye is first) (field sequential mode)
14: both eyes laced in one Block (right eye is first) (field sequential mode)
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