2016-02-12, 16:30
Those saying that using Kodi in the domain name is fair use obviously don't remember this http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-is-requir...tvnews-com
Quote:Everybody? Yes everybody, because other will fork just before that point and carry on with the original old xbmc spirit in mind, without this foundation and trademark crap.I highly doubt any of the current Kodi team would move over to such a fork, so I really wonder how such a fork would ever get new features or on new platforms. I don't recall any dev of the piracy scene having contributed to Kodis codebase. All they do is write python add-ons. I don't see them working on porting Kodi to new platforms, improve audio and video playback, etc. or give anything back to the core project itself. And getting contributions to the core project is what we are after, not users getting scammed by box sellers making a quick buck and offloading the support on us.
Kodi will happy co exist as a small user base of fanatics and moral knights. Developers would be happy to assosiate there name with it (there you go Da-anda). Althought I strongly believe the project kodi as that will die sooner than later.
(2016-02-12, 16:30)jjd-uk Wrote: [ -> ]Those saying that using Kodi in the domain name is fair use obviously don't remember this http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-is-requir...tvnews-comAre you saying that Amazon's lawyers writing a letter is proof you can't legally have 'kodi' in a domain name in any circumstances?
(2016-02-12, 01:56)ClassicNancy Wrote: [ -> ]it's OK if your website says, "Media center customization services for Kodi available here;(2016-02-12, 01:44)keith Wrote: [ -> ](2016-02-12, 01:41)ClassicNancy Wrote: [ -> ]Your contact page on the website says there is no email and to refer to the forum.If you can't find it, you can post here and ask us as well.
My question is I have been using Classic Kodi Skins which I am guessing I can't any longer. Can I say Classic Skins for kodi? I just do skins using aeon nox and not builds. If I don't say kodi somewhere how will people know what they are?
Classic Skins
(customization services for Kodi available here)
(2016-02-11, 22:38)Lunatixz Wrote: [ -> ]Let's start with: https://www.tva$$ons.ag/
typical schneegans they removed the top bar the states the site is not official, and are back to their old games... using the Kodi name all over the site!
It's clearly designed to mislead users... all this while asking for donations and handouts... shameful profiteering!
Kodi is a registered trademark of the XBMC Foundation. We are not connected to or in any other way affiliated with Kodi, Team Kodi, or the XBMC Foundation. Furthermore, any software, addons, or products offered by us will receive no support in official Kodi channels, including the Kodi forums and various social networks.
(2016-02-12, 16:44)trogggy Wrote: [ -> ]Are you saying that Amazon's lawyers writing a letter is proof you can't legally have 'kodi' in a domain name in any circumstances?
Edit: and 'is fair use' is a million miles away from 'can be fair use sometimes.'
'fireTVnews.com' sounds kind of official, associated with Amazon, could cause confusion etc. No?
Edit: Oh and thread about it on xda.
'fireTVnews.com' is now 'AFTVnews.com'
"I am not interested in fighting this..."
(2016-02-12, 12:04)ClassicNancy Wrote: [ -> ]Nate let me ask again then. I have been using Classic Kodi Skins for my addon/wizard. It is just skins based on aeon nox 5 silvo. No addons just skins and all free. Mike Silvo is aware and I have even posted screenshots on his forum. I cannot use Kodi anywhere to denote the skins are for Kodi? I do not have a website by the way. I deleted it last night. My 6 whole members lol.Your ofc are allowed to mention that you are creating skins for Kodi, so using the name "Kodi" in general is not forbidden (who came to that conclusion), as long as the context it's used is not confusing or harming the project. And as Nate already mentioned, giving your skins a unique name like "ClassicNancySkin" (just as an example) is in general a good idea so that users will find your website when looking for your skin. You're ofc free to say "Look what I got, ClassicNancy2, a brand new skin for Kodi...". As long as you're not confusing people and harm our project/brand we're usually happy, and ofc thankful that you contribute to the project and share it's spirit.
(2016-02-12, 17:09)jjd-uk Wrote: [ -> ]In US law covered by this I believe:If you can explain how someone posting a couple of skins on their site comes under cyberpiracy prevention I'm all ears.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1125
See Cyberpiracy prevention section.
Quote:I must apologise if I have caused offence. When I first heard of kodi I thought the whole thing had to be illegal then I found that boxes were being sold on Amazon I thought everything was ' acceptable ' but I now know that is not the case.
(2016-02-12, 17:12)trogggy Wrote: [ -> ]nobody said that having a website with a couple of skins is falling unter cyberpiracy. Our policy also mentiones that, if we get asked and agree (!), Kodi can be used in domain names. We're sorry for the users that only had good intentions in mind, but we're so fed up with the current situation that we at least for now want to wipe the slate clean and go from there carefully. We're no company, have no interrest in getting closed source, selling the project or whatever - all we want is to protect the name of the project we devote our love and time to. So please bear with us when we come off a bit harsh and fight against anyone who comes our way atm.(2016-02-12, 17:09)jjd-uk Wrote: [ -> ]In US law covered by this I believe:If you can explain how someone posting a couple of skins on their site comes under cyberpiracy prevention I'm all ears.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1125
See Cyberpiracy prevention section.
Edit: Interestingly - that section only applies to people 'intending to profit...'
(2016-02-12, 17:22)da-anda Wrote: [ -> ]If you've read the thread (which I don't doubt) the question has been asked and the answer given - you can ask but the answer will always be 'No'. Until some unspecified time in the future.(2016-02-12, 17:12)trogggy Wrote: [ -> ]nobody said that having a website with a couple of skins is falling unter cyberpiracy. Our policy also mentiones that, if we get asked and agree (!), Kodi can be used in domain names. We're sorry for the users that only had good intentions in mind, but we're so fed up with the current situation that we at least for now want to wipe the slate clean and go from there carefully. We're no company, have no interrest in getting closed source, selling the project or whatever - all we want is to protect the name of the project we devote our love and time to. So please bear with us when we come off a bit harsh and fight against anyone who comes our way atm.(2016-02-12, 17:09)jjd-uk Wrote: [ -> ]In US law covered by this I believe:If you can explain how someone posting a couple of skins on their site comes under cyberpiracy prevention I'm all ears.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1125
See Cyberpiracy prevention section.
Edit: Interestingly - that section only applies to people 'intending to profit...'
Quote:the person’s intent to divert consumers from the mark owner’s online location to a site accessible under the domain name that could harm the goodwill represented by the mark, either for commercial gain or with the intent to tarnish or disparage the mark, by creating a likelihood of confusion as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement of the site;
(2016-02-12, 17:46)jjd-uk Wrote: [ -> ]I guess you didn't read this part:I don't think you understand what that means.
Quote:the person’s intent to divert consumers from the mark owner’s online location to a site accessible under the domain name that could harm the goodwill represented by the mark, either for commercial gain or with the intent to tarnish or disparage the mark, by creating a likelihood of confusion as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation, or endorsement of the site;
(2016-02-12, 17:48)da-anda Wrote: [ -> ]@troggy, we might be overreaching, which I agree is also not good, but that's only because this situation has been going on for too long already and all the anger and frustration that slowly grew inside us just got out in one massive explosion. I'm sure we'll be more sensitive on the long run, but we also don't have the resources to check each and every website in detail. I mean, let's just think about regional community forums - who can check them in detail if the share our piracy stance or not, so it's easier to act. I'm not saying that the easy way is always the right thing, but it's currently the only way we see.I understand all that - but it doesn't change the legal situation, which I don't think is what you want it to be.